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prodigy saysWho cares about age...
Sorry, you invalidated you argument. What’s more dangerous. a disease that kills 20% of people under 5 or one that kills 20% over 85?
Any disease that kills is dangerous.
prodigy saysFauci was right on both of his positions given the available scientific data at the time each position was expressed.
Total horseshit. Is fauci right on saying NY's strategy is the right approach?
prodigy saysAny disease that kills is dangerous.
Including old fucking age, grandpa.
You’re going to die!
Get used to it.
It's also easy to be right when Fauci is constantly moving the goalpost and saying "science" told him.
Substantially wrong on the mask front if even current recommendations are valid.
WookieMan saysyou're likely a boomer
I'm a boomer and I'm not afraid of a fucking cold.
But this is not about a fucking cold. It's about controlling the narrative.
So you are so freaked out that trump might lose that you would have 10's of thousands of people die prematurely due to no implementation of facemask wearing, enabling the virus to propogate at warp speed.
California mandated face masks weeks ago, was the first state to lock down and has some of the strictest lock down rules in the country. Yet California's infection rate is skyrocketing.
So what do you attribute the warp speed at which the virus is spreading in California?
prodigy saysSo you are so freaked out that trump might lose that you would have 10's of thousands of people die prematurely due to no implementation of facemask wearing, enabling the virus to propogate at warp speed.
California mandated face masks weeks ago, was the first state to lock down and has some of the strictest lock down rules in the country. Yet California's infection rate is skyrocketing.
So what do you attribute the warp speed at which the virus is spreading in California?
socal2 says
California mandated face masks weeks ago, was the first state to lock down and has some of the strictest lock down rules in the country. Yet California's infection rate is skyrocketing.
So what do you attribute the warp speed at which the virus is spreading in California?
#itsthetesting
#itsthetesting
Yep probably half of them is asymptomatic which should qualify you as healthy. It's utter bullshit and blatantly unconstitutional to demand healthy people who test positive to stay at home against their will.
mell says#itsthetesting
Yep probably half of them is asymptomatic which should qualify you as healthy. It's utter bullshit and blatantly unconstitutional to demand healthy people who test positive to stay at home against their will.
Yep - I agree with all of that.
Just pointing out the silly claim that many Lefties seem to be making this week that "if only Trump wore a mask, places like California wouldn't have skyrocketing infection rates"
As if the Liberals in California would listen to Trump anyway.
California mandated face masks weeks ago, was the first state to lock down and has some of the strictest lock down rules in the country. Yet California's infection rate is skyrocketing.
So what do you attribute the warp speed at which the virus is spreading in California?
socal2 says
#itsthetesting
Seriously?
When california locked down heavy volume indoor businesses were shuttered.
Remaining open businesses took recommended precautions, primarily social distancing and facemasks.
Infection rates leveled off but never went down due to ever increasing testing
When california opened up, obviously home gatherings without facemasks, and densely populated public places with partial facemasks restarted the upward trend.
But lack of mask wearing during the reopening amplified the increasing numbers
socal2 saysCalifornia mandated face masks weeks ago, was the first state to lock down and has some of the strictest lock down rules in the country. Yet California's infection rate is skyrocketing.
So what do you attribute the warp speed at which the virus is spreading in California?
There is zero proof that any mask under N95 slows the spread at all.
prodigy saysOne has to know someone with a specific disease to believe it is dangerous?
a disease? no. a pandemic? yeah by the definition of the word, most should know many sick and/or dying for it be a pandemic.
mell saysThere is zero proof that any mask under N95 slows the spread at all.
Especially outdoors.
It is extremely difficult to pass on Wuhan virus outdoors. The Chinese published a study of thousands of known transmission. Only one was outdoors, and that was two guys sitting next to each other and talking.
There is zero proof that any mask under N95 slows the spread at all. And it causes many issues due to bacterial infections and reduced oxygen intake
Especially outdoors.
It is extremely difficult to pass on Wuhan virus outdoors. The Chinese published a study of thousands of known transmission. Only one was outdoors, and that was two guys sitting next to each other and talking.
The answer is simple. Masks don't help much and increased testing uncovers many more positives
But the current consensus of droplet (only) is becoming more and more unlikely. It's either aerosol and/or touch or some other mechanism such as unfiltered sewage (vapors/particles) in addition to having a symptomatic person cough on you.
A billion or two chinese would tend to disagree with this statement.
These people have to wear masks or get shot.
How do you explain their ridiculously low infection rate given the population count?
Not something that one would want to hear, but living under communist rule during a pandemic may be the most effective way to eliminate it.
Freedom always extracts a price, this time from mother nature.
mell saysThe answer is simple. Masks don't help much and increased testing uncovers many more positives
So you are so freaked out that trump might lose that you would have 10's of thousands of people die prematurely due to no implementation of facemask wearing, enabling the virus to propogate at warp speed.
The issue is medical in nature, your response is political in nature.
but making everyone making a face mask accomplishes nothing, is highly ineffective and likely will cause worse health effects down the line.
A billion or two chinese would tend to disagree with this statement.
These people have to wear masks or get shot.
How do you explain their ridiculously low infection rate given the population count?
prodigy saysA billion or two chinese would tend to disagree with this statement.
These people have to wear masks or get shot.
How do you explain their ridiculously low infection rate given the population count?
Simple.
Commies who unleashed a worldwide plague due to their incompetence (or maliciousness?) lie.
Data used for each instance:
1- Fauci knew facemasks would help versus any orally transmitted virus, but at the time due to a shortage of N95 facemasks, the available ones needed to be directed to medical staff servicing virus patients. Thus he correctly recommended that the public should not wear facemasks so as to not have the medical staff infected to the point where there were not enough caregivers available for the truly sick.
So you are so freaked out that trump might lose that you would have 10's of thousands of people die prematurely due to no implementation of facemask wearing, enabling the virus to propogate at warp speed.
The issue is medical in nature, your response is political in nature.
When california opened up, obviously home gatherings without facemasks, and densely populated public places with partial facemasks restarted the upward trend.
But lack of mask wearing during the reopening amplified the increasing numbers
If it was due to commie incompetence, the chinese would still have the infection rates or worse that we have.
The Chinese don't know anything about it and apply any measure - effective or not.
prodigy saysIf it was due to commie incompetence, the chinese would still have the infection rates or worse that we have.
Again - you are still believing the Commies are telling you the truth about their infection rates.
They have every incentive in the world to fudge their numbers.
Deaths in California were pretty stable and even declining before California required mandatory masks on June 21 and started locking the state back down. Most people in California (other than BLM rioters) were wearing masks back in May.
Yet deaths are still increasing in California.
deaths are 2-3 weeks out from infection.
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