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2022 Apr 29, 9:29pm   614,380 views  5,806 comments

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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/pimco-kiesel-called-housing-top-160339396.html?source=patrick.net

Bond manager Mark Kiesel sold his California home in 2006, when he presciently predicted the housing bubble would pop. He bought again in 2012, after U.S. prices fell more than 30% and found a floor.

Now, after a record surge in prices, Kiesel says the time to sell is once again at hand.

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5802   AmericanKulak   2025 Jan 12, 12:31pm  

HeadSet says


But isn't rent increasing as well?

I dunno about other states, but FL rents are collapsing.

It was a modest $100 decline in 2023, 2024 saw big cuts, continuing on until 2025.

Already by Summer 2024, rents were in freefall.
https://www.redfin.com/news/rents-fall-in-florida-austin-june-2024/

https://jaredjones.com/2024/09/19/landlords-panic-as-florida-rental-market-faces-major-decline/

Not only is it Landlords desperate to get somebody to come in and mitigate their 30% rise in HOA, Insurance, Property Taxes, but FL built 100k's of new multifamily units in the past two years - forced to finish by county/state bonding laws to prevent another 2008 when developers walked away from unfinished complexes
5803   AmericanKulak   2025 Jan 12, 12:40pm  

Once Trump slams the brakes on the migration wave it's hey hey mama going down.

Blackrock is already selling off in tranches. This site is run by a real estate research app developer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wa5r73qp-U
Home Partners of America (Blackstone) taking losses to dump fast last fall North of Tampa.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2BZbCbGN0g

The smart money is abandoning AirBNB, SFH rental, etc. and did so starting early last year.

NO bailouts for investment properties.
5804   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2025 Jan 12, 12:45pm  

Rents dropping in Texas too but I'm not sure if it's as much as Florida. Probably not.
5805   HeadSet   2025 Jan 12, 1:51pm  

AmericanKulak says

I dunno about other states, but FL rents are collapsing.

Not around here in coastal Virginia - rents are steadily increasing. House prices are falling, but the fall is from the rapidly increased prices from the last few years.
5806   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2025 Jan 12, 1:57pm  

HeadSet says


Not around here in coastal Virginia - rents are steadily increasing. House prices are falling, but the fall is from the rapidly increased prices from the last few years.


Around here in San Antonio we have a net outflow of residents so our population is decreasing, which is rare here. Over 15K apartments were build recently too mostly sitting empty.

It was difficult to get tenants for one of my rent houses last summer. It took me 4 months, a pretty major remodel, and a huge drop in rents. It put my rent gross back to around where it was in 2017.

I have a couple of young Navy kids living there now that work at one of the NSA buildings here in town which is perfect. Some people bitch and moan about small mom and pop people like me taking up the housing stock but for renters like that we do provide a service.

It's the mega-corps buying up everything that are the assholes. I still rent my self. All 3 of my rent house are equivalent to one house and San Diego and maybe 3/4 in SF bay area.

Maybe I'll sell when I finally buy something to live in but until then it keeps me diversified.

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