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In the US about 12% of the population owns 2 or more properties. In China it is about 25% of the population. So, if we simply get to the level the Chinese are at today, that absorbs all the excess property coming from the Boomers.
You are being sarcastic, right?
As a side note, in China there are over 100 car companies building cars. The elites in the US would lose their SHIT if something like that was tried in the US even compensating for population.
There's plenty of the population to absorb the incoming properties if the elites allow it.
Been there, done that: the US used to have over 100 car companies at the dawn of the last century. But, unlike in China now, these weren't government-subsidized.
And Chinese real estate is a disaster right now
MolotovCocktail says
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Yes, it is brand new and first listed in December 2024 for $416,500
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3382-Wood-Stork-Drive-Sw-Wilmington-LOT-37-Ocean-Isle-Beach-NC-28469/443112242_zpid/
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All it takes is a small change in perception to reignite housing sales.
In the US it is the opposite problem. Since 2022 the financial media has been promoting that now is a terrible time to buy a house. They use historical price to income ratios to belabor the point.
Since April 2022 (when the Housing Bubble 2.0 thread was started ) the stock market has increased in value by about 61% or about $25 trillion. We only have about 2 million houses for sale in the US. At an average price of $430k it puts the market value up for sale at about $86 billion.
All it takes is a small change in perception to reignite housing sales.
Generation Z has more financial wealth for their age than any generation that preceded it adjusted for inflation.
What planet do you live on?
The US has the highest percentage of college graduates with engineering and science degrees in the world clocking in at about 35%. They get high paying jobs. There's just not much of a news story there.
We hear about those with a disfunction.
I seriously don't know what bizarro world you live in. Sure you aren't confusing them with Millennials?
About 33% of housing purchases are done all cash.
MolotovCocktail says
I seriously don't know what bizarro world you live in. Sure you aren't confusing them with Millennials?
Nope Gen Z. Unemployment rate is 4.3% overall and lower than that for STEM fields. US companies pay more than any other corporations in the world. The 35% is just scientists and engineers. You still have your medical people, finance guys, etc. Figure 18% gravitate to government jobs. There's the pure bullshit graduates and those are the ones that make the news.
Like I've been saying it's too early to call for a housing crash. Case/Shiller is about 1% down from the high hit this summer. There's only about $86 billion worth of houses for sale. Real Estate does not exist in a vacuum. That $86 billion is nothing to the financial markets.
About 33% of housing purchases are done all cash.
Aren’t they still in high school?
Fortwaye says
Aren’t they still in high school?
The oldest is 28. Outta college with a few years savings behind them. Like I said for their age they have more financial assets than any previous generation for their age even factoring inflation.
I don't see that around here. I'm not sure why you think they have it so easy. They are kids, with nothing, no money, no assets, no skills, no network. If you telling me 20yo's have assets and network, I won't take you seriously.
Fortwaye says
Aren’t they still in high school?
The oldest is 28. Outta college with a few years savings behind them. Like I said for their age they have more financial assets than any previous generation for their age even factoring inflation.

Misc says
Fortwaye says
Aren’t they still in high school?
The oldest is 28. Outta college with a few years savings behind them. Like I said for their age they have more financial assets than any previous generation for their age even factoring inflation.
I don't see that around here. I'm not sure why you think they have it so easy. They are kids, with nothing, no money, no assets, no skills, no network. If you telling me 20yo's have assets and network, I won't take you seriously.
GNL says
Are home prices declining yet?
50% of states so far.
My 10% down on my first house was more than my parents total cost for thier first house. My dad made a quarter of what I make and my mom wasn't working when they bought their house. Its even worse for my kids. Housing had more than doubled since my son was born. Young people are getting fucked.
My 10% down on my first house was more than my parents total cost for thier first house. My dad made a quarter of what I make and my mom wasn't working when they bought their house. Its even worse for my kids. Housing had more than doubled since my son was born. Young people are getting fucked.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6LsqK63A8s
San Francisco's housing market 2026
Market is down but still expensive for most people (80%!), he says may not crash further. Looks like it’s the same correction happening in some pockets in expensive cities across the country. Rest of the country is fine I guess if not steamrolling inflation on the way to hold the floor.
CA instant action to prop up landlords by paying rents.
MolotovCocktail says
GNL says
Are home prices declining yet?
50% of states so far.
But all of those are hipster states, correct? :)

I know i'll keep getting shit on about this. Young people want hipster and coastal...You sound like a faggot when you blame high prices.
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So the only way to decrease real prices is to decrease demand, and the only way to do that is to kick out all illegal immigrants and anchor babies. Will Trump do this? Almost certainly not. Even with control over all three branches of the government, the Republicans are not going to get rid of all the illegals who are driving up housing prices and social welfare costs. I wish that I was wrong about this, but I'm not.
The United States population reached 200 million on November 20, 1967. If there was no net migration, then the U.S. population have stabilized to about 220 million. Instead, the population is 335 million. This is why housing is so expensive. This is why rent is so damn high. This is why the younger generations cannot afford to have children. This is why the only way to keep the population from falling is to import massive numbers of unskilled, uneducated, and often criminal immigrants. Both parties are responsible for this: democrats for importing voters and republicans for importing farm laborers. Both parties want cheap labor.
When you import massive numbers of low-iq, low-skill workers, your per capital GDP declines relative to where it would have been otherwise. Yes, technological advancements mask this because technology increases GDP faster than low-skill immigration decreases it, but most of those gains don't get seen by the middle class.
Since both parties, and their corporate overlords, are benefiting from the current system, immigration will continue and housing prices will also continue to rise. I suppose I shouldn't care since I own and have a 2.25% mortgage that is being eaten away by inflation, but anyone young enough that they having bought already is fucked.