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Wait till states start charging disposal fees for EVs. That'll freak the Greenies out.

Clearly, automobiles for personal use will be banned, replaced by a state Uber service. You will own nothing….

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

Clearly, automobiles for personal use will be banned, replaced by a state Uber service. You will own nothing….

Yeah wait until your drop off at the mall or place of employment takes over 20 minutes at peak times. Because there's a queue of cars that stretch all the way back out to the highway, creating congesting even for the EVs still on the highway.
If every ride is a point to point only. Then you wont get to your destination and park in a parking spot. You will be dropped off at the door.
What a fucking pain in the ass. I imagine you will be ticketed for being impatient and jumping out before the designated drop off. That's if the EV will have the doors unlocked so you can.

With facial recognition, imagine getting in a car. Then if there's a warrant out for your arrest, the car locks you in, and notifies the police.

The fucking Commies that be, really want the world to be a very bad 90's SciFi dystopic movie.

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

Clearly, automobiles for personal use will be banned, replaced by a state Uber service. You will own nothing….

But travel will only be allowed if you are “up to date “ on your jabs and haven’t mispronouned anyone or hurt their feelz.

Could be fake, but funny anyway.

Patrick says

Fat chance: if the popo didn't first witness the act of speeding and then didn't measure the speed using a certified device he can go and fly a kite, pound sand or fuck himself (his choice).

But Tesla will punish you for speeding by increasing your rate if you buy insurance from them.

Patrick says

More likely the car will not allow you to speed in the first place. But then again, tickets are a source of revenue.

RWSGFY says

Fat chance: if the popo didn't first witness the act of speeding and then didn't measure the speed using a certified device he can go and fly a kite, pound sand or fuck himself (his choice).

The precedence has already been set with red light cameras and speed cameras.

HeadSet says

RWSGFY says

Fat chance: if the popo didn't first witness the act of speeding and then didn't measure the speed using a certified device he can go and fly a kite, pound sand or fuck himself (his choice).

The precedence has already been set with red light cameras and speed cameras.

Yes, it was: red light cameras have been deemed illegal and ordered to be removed in CA.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/europe-abandons-all-electric-car-mandate/5814038

Europe Abandons All-Electric Car Mandate.

RWSGFY says

Patrick says

Fat chance: if the popo didn't first witness the act of speeding and then didn't measure the speed using a certified device he can go and fly a kite, pound sand or fuck himself (his choice).

But Tesla will punish you for speeding by increasing your rate if you buy insurance from them.

some places have license plate readers and cameras… auto tickets

Patrick says

Well, i hear there are still 20,000 Model A Fords still on the road.

HeadSet says

More likely the car will not allow you to speed in the first place. But then again, tickets are a source of revenue.

I don't think cops want to deal with people anymore honestly. A traffic stop is a pain in the ass for everyone. So I think they are enforcing less, at least around me. Plus why get in a situation over something minor and potentially have a gun pulled on you as a cop AND you shoot the perp and YOU go to jail.

This why I keep saying get out of cities. They don't want to patrol. I know 2 Chicago cops well. I think at 45 they can get their pension and work for another police department. They want out. Bad. Cities will become more lawless. No doubt.

Climate Expert: Gas Car Cancellation Is Intended to End Private Transport

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/catherinesalgado/2023/07/15/climate-expert-gas-car-cancellation-is-intended-to-end-private-transport-n1710930

Booger says

Gas Car Cancellation Is Intended to End Private Transport

I called that long ago. Private cars will be for the very rich and the politicians as the rest of us will be on shared right style buses and vans. Also, I notice we do not hear much anymore about self-drive and aerial taxis.

HeadSet says

Patrick says

Well, i hear there are still 20,000 Model A Fords still on the road.

you can’t. government mandates a lot of it

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/indigenous-american-giving-monday/comment/22337511

tritorch
Writes Out Here On the Perimeter
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Regarding E-Cars, here is why they want everyone in one:

Electric cars have kill switches and real time tracking of everything you do in them and they record everywhere you go. They can also be hijacked remotely by a lender or government, and programmed to keep you within your fifteen minute city.

Want to drive your car today? I'm sorry your social credit score isn't high enough, your carbon footprint has exceeded your daily limit, and your vaccination status is not up to date. Check back next week.

Patrick says

Electric cars have kill switches and real time tracking of everything you do in them and they record everywhere you go

No need for it to be electric for all that crap to be in it.

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

HeadSet says

Patrick says

Well, i hear there are still 20,000 Model A Fords still on the road.

you can’t. government mandates a lot of it

You can build a Model A from spare parts (all of which are readily avaiable) as an individual and register it as a kit car even in CA.

True. I've read that most new cars have GPS tracking whether you want it or not.

https://www.techwalla.com/articles/how-to-disable-the-gps-locator-in-a-car

https://notthebee.com/article/a-huge-percentage-of-electric-vehicle-owners-are-defecting-and-going-back-to-internal-combustion-cars

Is our honeymoon with the electric vehicle finally over? A study found that one in five early adopters of EV cars and trucks are returning to gas-powered vehicles. As a result, used EV prices are freefalling.

The Journal Nature published a study revealing that of the folks who were early adopters of EVs in California (between 2012 and 2018), 20% of [plug-in hybrid] drivers have returned to fully gas-powered vehicles and 18% of full EV drivers returned to gas-powered - with their subsequent vehicle purchase. ...

Dude got into a fender-bender in his Rivian. Insurance offered $1,600. The repair bill was $42,000.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: I just feel like there's some stuff they're not telling us about these electric cars...

And just last weekend, my wife's cousin was saying how hard it was to use her EV to get from Los Gatos to Half Moon Bay, because there is a big hill in the way, and how expensive repairs are on it. Can't remember what car it was, not a Tesla.

Patrick says

As a result, used EV prices are freefalling.

Don't buy one!!!!

The battery pack has a limited lifespan, and that's like 1/2 the cost of the vehicle.

Patrick says

Dude got into a fender-bender in his Rivian. Insurance offered $1,600. The repair bill was $42,000.

If you get into a minor accident in an EV, you MAY have damaged the battery pack, and if you have, it's basically a bomb. Even minor accidents, for safety reasons, need the entire battery pack to be replaced.

EV's kind of remind me of thin clients. They try to bring that back every few years too. I think we're on the verge of abandoning all this Green Energy nonsense as people are starting to recognize that although PERHAPS IN THE FUTURE, it might be viable, we're not there yet.

richwicks says

The battery pack has a limited lifespan

Interesting. There is a cab company in AZ that runs a fleet of 200 Prius cabs and has done so for more than 15 years. They put over 300,000 miles on them before removing them but have kept a few around for 10 years with much more mileage. The Prius is a hybrid, but the battery is still constantly charged and discharged. It seems the all electric car's battery would hold up as well.

HeadSet says

Interesting. There is a cab company in AZ that runs a fleet of 200 Prius cabs and has done so for more than 15 years. They put over 300,000 miles on them before removing them but have kept a few around for 10 years with much more mileage. The Prius is a hybrid, but the battery is still constantly charged and discharged. It seems the all electric car's battery would hold up as well.

It's not quite the same. A hybrid only activates the battery for acceleration and breaking.

Batteries have a limited lifespan because of dendrites. As you recharge a battery, you end up with little tendrils of metal from the cathode, when it touches the anode, the battery is dead, or at least that cell of the battery is dead. It's a short.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWsR44dmbBs

That does a pretty good explanation of it.

I have no idea how big the Prius battery is or if it's replaceable. 1/2 the cost of an EV is just the battery pack.

Electric cars are the bomb. Doesn't everybody feel clean and green driving around in a remote controlled bomb?

All green measures are designed to fail. They are the Globalist Satanic Inversion Lie of sustainablity, they are the exact opposite. They don't want us sustained, they want us dead or enslaved to their crumbs.

Get rid of the shit that works, get corruptocrats to impose green measures, dismantle the infrastructure that could be relied upon, bake and wait for the desperate, helpless population.

Ceffer says

All green measures are designed to fail.

NO, they aren't.

That's what is funded, frequently, but that's not exclusively it. If you have the money, you can live off grid quite comfortably. You will need space and either you will have to change your lifestyle a bit, or get some energy storage system that either had to be regularly replaced or is novel and expensive.

Solar energy is probably a good idea but not how it's implemented. Look at all the roofs we have that are just black and collecting heat. Cover them with panels.

Panels are much thinner than they were 15 years ago. They are practically paper thin, which greatly reduces the energy needed to produce them. I'm out of the field now, but I think it's possible to make it beneficial. If, for example, you could make them practically no cost, like the cost of paper, all of a sudden, production of hydrogen from water and electrolysis makes sense.

We have to reduce costs.

The $42K bill is not surprising, but it's not exclusive to EVs either. A fender is not a fender anymore - it is packed with sensors and cameras. Same for bumpers and even taillights. And don't get me started on windshields: what used to be a $120 job to replace a cracked one is now a $1500 ordeal with a trip to the dealer to calibrate all the shit they now have in/behind it.

Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has pushed back the ban on the sale of new petrol and diesel cars in the UK from 2030 to 2035
Sunak says he still expects that by 2030 "the vast majority" of cars will be electric, because of improving technology
He also says there will be "far more time" to transition from gas boilers to heat pumps

--Beebs

RWSGFY says

The $42K bill is not surprising, but it's not exclusive to EVs either. A fender is not a fender anymore - it is packed with sensors and cameras. Same for bumpers and even taillights. And don't get me started on windshields: what used to be a $120 job to replace a cracked one is now a $1500 ordeal with a trip to the dealer to calibrate all the shit they now have in/behind it.

Don't buy any vehicle that has sensors in the windshield, bumpers, or lights. This means no adaptive cruise control / collision avoidance l lane departure or self driving features.

Booger says

Don't buy any vehicle that has sensors in the windshield, bumpers, or lights. This means no adaptive cruise control / collision avoidance l lane departure or self driving features.

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Absolutely biggest pollution is cause by tire. Much more than ICE. Unfortunately, both cars type electric, and ICE use the same tire.

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2023/07/electric-vehicles-tires-wearing-out-particulates/674750/

REpro says

Absolutely biggest pollution is cause by tire. Much more than ICE. Unfortunately, both cars type electric, and ICE use the same tire.

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2023/07/electric-vehicles-tires-wearing-out-particulates/674750/

My BIL's Tesla goes through a set of tires every 15K miles like a fucking clockwork. At $400+ for a corner. (The bithching and moaning is epic, LOL). And these are not some super-sticky TW200 tires I like on my sportscars - these are pretty meh plasticky touring all-seasons with TW north of 400. They also gather screws and nails like crazy - I haven't had as many flats in 30 years as he gets in a fucking month, no kidding. I guess this is what happens when passenger tires are run on a vehicle which weights like a fucking truck...

RWSGFY says

My BIL's Tesla goes through a set of tires every 15K miles like a fucking clockwork. At $400+ for a corner. (The bithching and moaning is epic, LOL). And these are not some super-sticky TW200 tires I like on my sportscars - these are pretty meh plasticky touring all-seasons with TW north of 400. They also gather screws and nails like crazy - I haven't had as many flats in 30 years as he gets in a fucking month, no kidding. I guess this is what happens when passenger tires are run on a vehicle which weights like a fucking truck...

Not that I know anything about this, but are his tires properly aligned? If you have poor alignment on your tires, they wear very quickly. That I do know.

https://youtu.be/USVd_k6lQ_c?si=4xDjnEMcFHau5Xl6

PedoIwog says

https://youtu.be/USVd_k6lQ_c?si=4xDjnEMcFHau5Xl6

I know somebody that works for Rivian. He has NO FAITH in the company, he's waiting for his stock to mature, and to cash out.

It's all government money, incentives, and bullshit investing from god knows where. I don't think EVs have a future. In 20 years, we'll just see this as a minor mania because the world won't be burning down (again) from climate change.