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IF you guys would drop your lies and bs for even one minute you would realize that the democrat's position is one you can't really dispute.

That is that the Trump campaigns contact with the Russians was dishonest, immoral and unethical. That is they are accepting the conclusion of no evidence that Trump himself committed a crime (other than possibly obstruction - which the Mueller report left in more of a grey area).

Democrats are completely accepting the Mueller report, it's you guys that are in denial and SPIN MODE.

marcus says

That is that the Trump campaigns contact with the Russians was dishonest, immoral and unethical.

Nowhere in Mueller report is this suggested. You are making up fantasies.

However, Team HRC had MANY illicit contacts w the Russians and Ukrainians which is now indeed under investigation of actual real crimes, not made up fake CNN crimes.

CBOEtrader says

, Team HRC had MANY illicit contacts w the Russians and Ukrainians which is now indeed under investigation of actual real crimes,

This is a wet dream fantasy in the same world as the Clinton pizza parlor pedophile ring. But there are still morons that believe the Clintons left a trail of DBs on their way to Davos.
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Trump is actually doing a fantastic job, objectively speaking.

Sure, his personality is out there, but his accomplishments just keep piling up, though you'd never know it from the mainstream media.

He has been treated far worse than Obama ever was. By miles.

Bora Bora vs. Guam!

rdm says

Russia intervened in the 2016 election to hurt Clinton and help Trump, and did so in a systematic manner. Trump's people welcomed this and one can make a strong case they still do

I believe Russia intervened in the election to sow chaos like we are seeing now. Putin and Russia probably can't believe how successful they have been at dividing our country. It is amazing Trump has gotten anything accomplished domestically or internationally in the last 2 years. The amount of bullshit with this fake scandal and investigation would have paralyzed most other presidents.

Trump campaigned on a strong military, pulling out of the Iran Deal, securing our borders and greatly expanding America's energy production. In what universe are we to believe Putin would prefer Trump and the big oil/big military Republicans as opposed to Clinton and the Democrats who have campaigned on basically de-industrializing America and giving Russia and OPEC majority control over the world's energy supplies?

21 posts and 19 by the OP...Is that a new record?

komputodo says

21 posts and 19 by the OP...Is that a new record?

Right? I was pushing for it in my cash thread. Fortunately the dip shit came through and the ratio changed because of that cunt. Oh well.

just_dregalicious says

Bora Bora vs. Guam!

GUAM!! #patnetStongInGuam

Oh, merciful God! Please let there be a process crime against evil Trump! Those can be manufactured so easily, Puhleeeeeze!

Sounds like Dems are pretty butthurt and are trying to make lemonade out of Mueller's lemon, albeit not successfully and as a result they just keep digging and digging and losing already minuscule credibility they have.

I listened to Ben Shapiro yesterday and he was pretty accurate: we all know Trump lies, he is honest about being dishonest, but one place he did not lie or did not do anything illegal was this Russian collusion.

Tan Suits are how frivolous things were under Obama.

Patrick says

He has been treated far worse than Obama ever was. By miles.

The inverse of Obama. Vox, MSNBC, WaPo leapt to "Explain" every misstep and anti-American action of Obama, while it claims every pro-American deed of Trump is evil and rotten.

Just came across an example of the Obama Era, from an article about Brian Lamb retiring:

The network did once clash with the Obama administration, in what Mr. Lamb describes as “one of the strangest things I’ve ever seen.” During a taped 2010 interview, Mr. Lamb asked President Obama about redecorating the Oval Office. “Given that we are in the midst of some very difficult economic times,” Mr. Obama replied, “we decided to hold off last year in terms of making some changes.”

Weeks later, the White House unveiled fresh decor, including an Oval Office rug printed with quotations chosen specifically by Mr. Obama. This contradiction posed a small PR problem for the president. When C-Span immediately aired its unedited tape, the White House press shop was displeased.

“Out of that,” Mr. Lamb says, “came an attitude toward us, from Josh Earnest, that I still, to this day, do not understand.” From then on, C-Span received no cooperation from the Obama White House. “As a matter of fact, the next Christmas party, they made sure we had less tickets,” he says. “In their little world that they lived in down there, it was a way to retaliate.”

https://www.wsj.com/articles/after-40-years-c-spans-founder-signs-off-11555713751?mod=searchresults&page=1&pos=6

HonkpilledMaster says

Just came across an example of the Obama Era, from an article about Brian Lamb retiring:

That's plain raycist as we all know. St. Obama can do nothing bad!

Obama was far worse about retaliating against bad press than Trump has been. And with Far Far Far FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR less reason! Obama got press that was 90% positive, except for Fox News. Trump has gotten press that is 90% negative, except for Breitbart.

WookieMan says

just_dregalicious says

Bora Bora vs. Guam!

GUAM!! #patnetStongInGuam

Chamorro power!

Tenpoundbass says

No dirt ?

More like so much dirt, that no matter what he does, everyone is like, yeah, whatever, we already knew he was amoral and corrupt.

Mueller needs some water boarding until he comes up with the 'right' report.

marcus says

More like so much dirt, that no matter what he does, everyone is like, yeah, whatever, we already knew he was amoral and corrupt.

“Morality” is subjective to policy wonks and the vagaries of the opposition. There’s a reason we have the Code of Hamurabi. A written set of laws gives a guide to what is and is not permissible, quite apart from what “moral people” will decide after the fact is or is not moral.

Trump did not break any laws. Therefore he is still our President.
Get used to it.

Quigley says

Trump did not break any laws. Therefore he is still our President.

I thought it was becasuewe can't indict a sitting President (referring the the obstruction charges)




I am used to the string of events, quotes, lies, and everything else that gives us the picture of who the guy is. The fact that you can't see it or just don't care ? That's your problem.

Btw, I think TRump was right when he said, "Im fucked." It's going to take time for the dust to settle, that's all.

Patrick says

Trump is actually doing a fantastic job, objectively speaking.

If destroying everything this country stands for is your idea of doing a great job.

The economy lags policies. Of course the tax cuts did stimulate the economy, but not in a way that was worth the $1.2 trillion deficit in growth times.

Trump is objectively the worst President of modern times.

If you are a right winger, then his SCOTUS appointments are a big win. If you are terrified of immigrants and the ever shrinking proportion of "white" Americans then he's a win mostly for talk and bullshit about a wall.

But over all Trump is a tremendous blow to this country's image, and to our future position in the world. And that is an objective fact. I guess if one voted for TRump, they find themselves in a situation where they have to lie to themselves now, but then it took some monumental intellectual dishonesty to not see the guy in the first place.

We are resilient though, and can maybe come back from this. Although I fear the counter radicalized left reaction to what they see as the White spremacism that Trump and his supporters represent.

marcus says

But over all Trump is a tremendous blow to this country's image,

Meh. Image is mutable, as mutable as anything is. The important take-away for the rest of the world is being heard: Americans want America for Americans. Nobody is too upset about this, as the sentiment is reciprocated worldwide with the people. Every nationality wants to put itself first in its own country. This is natural. Only the elites and power brokers are raising hell claiming that the end is nigh. Much smoke and wind and not much meaning.
People should be careful about the news sources they trust.

It’s really ridiculous.

Quigley says

Obama was far worse about retaliating against bad press than Trump has been

Wtf ? Retaliating ?

The right doesn't need bad press, they just make shit up.

I believe this Tan suit nonsense was planted by liberals. Fox bought it hook line and sinker for some reason. I do recall TPB parrotting the nonsense. It was as if in todays age of dress casual at work, people forgot about summer suits. Obama looked great in that Tan suit.

jazz_music says

That's when they first realized that Trump was the kind of liar they could really get behind.

Tim Aurora says

I yearn for the days when Tan suits were scandals. Now they would not even be a blimp on the news.

You want smooth sailing and a happy life? Turn off the media and enjoy the kick ass economy.

Tim Aurora says

I yearn for the days when Tan suits were scandals. Now they would not even be a blimp on the news.

Or Iran Deals. Of course, we're learning more and more about Obama's policy scandals, especially the Miami-Dade/Broward Obama-endorsed reforms that allowed Trayvon's death and the Parkland Shooting by downgrading crimes and promoting non-enforcement against underage criminals and anti-social behavior.

And Fake Fact Checks, like this one, now totally proven wrong.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/11/13/all-of-the-known-times-the-trump-campaign-met-with-russians/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.5e538437bbc1

But by fact-checking, the paper really means judging various claims against liberal orthodoxies. Case in point: The claim in question was Trump’s protest that “Russia” is “fake news to try to make up for the loss of the Democrats.” The Washington Post judged that to be “false.” The Mueller report suggests otherwise.

https://nypost.com/2019/04/19/top-10-things-the-media-got-wrong-about-collusion-and-obstruction/

It's great watching the Legacy Media implode, however.

WookieMan says

komputodo says

21 posts and 19 by the OP...Is that a new record?

Right? I was pushing for it in my cash thread. Fortunately the dip shit came through and the ratio changed because of that cunt. Oh well.

Doncha just hate when a twisted and incorrect narrative gets destroyed by FACTS? Oops..

Judge Nap is not very happy Trump has totally ignored him. Probably best for Trump. Nap sounds like one of those guys. Had Trump brought into his inner circle, the Dems and the Never Trumpers would be dissecting him and airing all of Nap's dirty laundry. I bet Nap is dirty as fuck they way he's playing the Globalist game.

There are liberal fake news about "what if's" and "omg sky is falling" and "Trump is satan".

And than there is reality:
https://www.foxnews.com/world/easter-sunday-explosions-at-multiple-churches-and-hotels-rock-sri-lanka-death-tolls-rises

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

Trump is entitled to drop an A-bomb on Berkeley because it forgot to vote for him.

He won.

Libby cunts need to fucking die.

Exactly as the Founding Fathers demanded.

AF for Secretary of Defense.

It's always fun to look at the wide world of comrades through red colored glasses.

These days Swedes and Norwegians are struggling to stay afloat in an increasingly Islamic world. At home in their native lands, globalist sell outs have imported millions of dirty Muslims to rape their women and mug them and commit crimes and sponge off their welfare. In the USA, President Obama imported millions of Somalis and other assorted Muslims to fuck up their neighborhoods, sponge off state welfare in Minnesota and Michigan, and reduce their voting power to ensure Democrat victories.

It’s really a tragedy what Democrats, globalists, and especially Muslims have done to Swedes and Norwegians.

You know his fortune was actually cemented by "breaking-up" Standard Oil. It also hid the real source of what people were buying, as many boycotted Rockefeller products. Government doesn't fix anything, they only make it worse.

jazz_music says

This is the story of Rockefeller's triumph of capitalism over democratic attempts to regulate and organize. The Rockefellers were allowed to paint themselves in a heroic and paternalistic light after murdering women and children along with tent camp workers.

The story shows the sacrifices that were made to establish organized labor in the United States only to backslide into new verisons of fascism and feudalism we currently endure.

That's why guns should be legal, and I do not understand why the non-idiot left are so strongly against guns.

Attacking armed workers ends up in dead strikebreakers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain

Sporadic gun battles continued for a week, with the miners at one time nearly breaking through to the town of Logan and their target destinations, the non-unionized counties to the south, Logan and Mingo. Up to 30 deaths were reported by Chafin's side and 50–100 on the union miners' side, with hundreds more injured or wounded.

jazz_music says

You might modify that slogan to read "A corrupted government can only serve its donors"

I was a bit inaccurate. I meant to say "Central Government". Small local government can certainly work well because people know each other, and oversight is high. Think the US States pre-Civil War

NuttBoxer says

Think the US States pre-Civil War

Small, trustworthy, industrious, and culturally monogamous communities do OK w socialism. It takes a TON of personal accountability and even then, I'd bet a free market would work FAR better. However, zero chance a large, multi-cultural country like the US should ever try socialism. States, perhaps.

This is YUGE. Trump is no longer handing out waivers for trading oil with Iran, he's telling frackers to go apeshit and telling OPEC to produce more.

The Madman is actually starting an oil embargo ON Iran.

OccasionalCortex says

And India. Oh boy is India screwed. They say that they have other sources lined up. But that won't save them from the global oil price hikes when Iranian oil goes off the market.

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