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d6rB says

Overall tho I agree with sentiment that extensive parades is third world stuff (other than honor guard which is a tradition).

I agree too. But at the end of the day who is getting hurt by a parade? Seems like an extremely silly thing to get upset over. Then to spend money on a balloon as if it's going to make a difference? No one cares. It's not going to convert anyone. Just a waste of resources and time.

Instead of the left throwing a temper tantrum, bring forth a viable candidate and don't sabotage it. Get over Trump. Nothing is changing on that front. We're almost 3 years past his election. Get over it already.

Ciudad Juarez is opposite from El Paso, and I think the city part and a few miles on each side it has been walled off during Clinton's time.

WookieMan says

ring forth a viable candidate and don't sabotage it. Get over Trump.

Ain't gonna happen - you are being too logical here

We already have military flyovers for many events so I’m not sure why this event is such a big deal.

It’s not like it’s uncommon to see massive military convoys anywhere within 100 miles or so of a military base.

The vociferous propaganda outcry seems targeted at ignorant city dwellers for whom a military presence is rare or non existent.

jazz_music says

YOU ALL KNOW WHO YOU ARE

LET THIS SINK IN

www.youtube.com/embed/yMzyleT2FqY

CovfefeButDeadly says

We already have military flyovers for many events so I’m not sure why this event is such a big deal

This is true and I dont think the flyover is an issue. But tanks in the streets of DC is an image that most Americans don't want. And don't want to pay for. You might say its harmless other than the financial cost just another sop to the Trump's narcissism and bone spur, limp dicked militarism. And it is but it changes the dynamic of the celebration of the 4th from freedom and independence to repression, control and destruction. Totally out of place in my opinion.

What candidates are the cartels backing? Curious minds want to know.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

Navy vet buddy had only one thing to say about the SEALS - they had the best libraries.

You only had to run ten miles and dive 200 feet to get to it.

So gay pride parades are ok because they are celebrating anal fucking and getting aids.

But parades to celebrate our nation are bad?

WTF lefties, get off my lawn you fucking idiots!

HEYYOU says

Dumb Leftist/Democrats spend money when they should not & instead boycott all Rep/Con businesses.

Come on, left only goes to businesses that virtue signal to them, which wouldn't be conservative.

rdm says

And it is but it changes the dynamic of the celebration of the 4th from freedom and independence to repression, control and destruction.

How? I'd argue most American's don't give a flying fuck and by statistics something like 40-50% of them don't pay a dime towards the military (or anything). So who really gives a shit what "most" American's think. They aren't footing the bill for dick.

The media is the one blowing this out of proportion. Plain and simple. I've agreed it's 3rd world level stuff, but it doesn't mean shit. The average person just doesn't care and 99.999999% of the country won't even be there. The fact this is a story in the first place is what should scare people. Not some tanks in the street.

From Aug 2016:

Democrat Hillary Clinton leads Republican Donald Trump in some of the most diverse battleground states – including by double digits in two of them – according to four brand-new NBC News/Wall Street Journal/Marist polls.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/polls-clinton-running-table-key-battlegrounds-n629136

jazz_music says

I get suckered too, just not as much as you.

Please just answer this. I don't need a rant.

WookieMan says

pick 3 policies that TRUMP has enacted that have influenced YOUR personal life in any way. NOT emotionally either.

HEYYOU says

Republicans raised my taxes. I've written the check.

Trump or Republicans? You must live in a high SALT state. Maybe blame the local dems for that? Very few people received a tax increase.

HEYYOU says

My slime Republican county raised my property taxes. I've written the check.

Nothing to do with Trump, but okay. Your focus should be here honestly. You local government will fuck you over much more than the federal government can.

HEYYOU says

God Damn slime,scum,trash Republicans raised my taxes.

I'm not sure where you live. Government likes their money. This has nothing to do with party. You seem hung up on it though. Do something about it. Run for something.

So you now support the Trump tariffs? Bring manufacturing back to places with real environmental laws.

The Russian sub escorting the nuclear submarine responded with a Balkan 2000 torpedo and scuttled the US vessel.

Horse shit.

OccasionalCortex says

...during the Dem debates Bernie repeated the "We have twelve years before we are all gonna die!" line.

To which the moderator should have replied, "So...why bother with doing Medicare For All or anything else for that matter?"

But the moderator was a Democrat stooge.

Let's face it if we all going to die in 12 years, panic would be universal, not just on stage in one convention lol. No one would give a fuck about getting a pension.

I wonder if leftists actually use logic, or they just believe everything that is told to them by people on stage.

that's too funny!

Tesla is doomed!






*Tesla stock surges after setting new delivery and production records*

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/02/tesla-q2-2019-production-and-delivery-numbers.html

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

It's the only thing left that can excite the base!

Hillary behind bars would be far more exciting.

socal2 says

*Tesla stock surges after setting new delivery and production records*

tesla stock surges when the algos saw that headline...it doesn't matter if it's true or not.

WookieMan says

The fact this is a story in the first place is what should scare people

So a President that usurps the 4th of July celebration on the Mall in DC for clearly political purposes, sprinkles tanks and other military equipment around like monuments to his greatness and gives VIP tickets to Republicans only, shouldn't be a press story? If a Dem had done the same thing there would be a screaming of Posse Comitatus and immediate impeachment hearings. And by the way the stable genius wants it to be a story, that is until no one shows up. I hear they are giving away tickets and begging people to show up, that's what some people say. Seems its bad stage management. Many people are saying he and his evangelical followers are praying for rain.

rdm says

he and his evangelical followers are praying for rain.

This is where the LibbyFucks come in handy. They pee on your head and tell you it's raining.

komputodo says

Hillary behind bars would be far more exciting

Hillary behind bars with captured negroes would be better.

Ceffer says

They pee on your head and tell you it's raining.

And Trump asks for more... or so I hear from somewhere.

How come there are no reparations for slave owners who had their slaves stolen?

Trump is such a dictator, that the Resistance to his Tyranny...

... Call him Great Orange Douche or Drumpf-Hitler everytime he tweets on every major social media platform
Nightly by shitty comedy writers on all the late night alleged funnyman shows
Mock his daughter, sons, wife; even his youngest child in the nastiest terms possible.
Develop crude imagery of him and put makeup on to look like a black eye, alleging they were attacked by his supporters.
Demand he take all the guns away and forbid them from ever having any

rdm says

So a President that usurps the 4th of July celebration on the Mall in DC for clearly political purposes, sprinkles tanks and other military equipment around like monuments to his greatness and gives VIP tickets to Republicans only, shouldn't be a press story? If a Dem had done the same thing there would be a screaming of Posse Comitatus and immediate impeachment hearings.

Is this sarcasm? Name one president in the history of this country that NEVER used the office of president for political reasons? They all do and you know it. For some reason THIS time and THIS president it's a problem. The name is mentioned so much here so I'm not going to search for it, but there were threads here about Obama using the office for reelection and political gain. Those threads were no different than this one.

I find the faux outrage over something like this hysterical. I've agreed that it's 3rd world level chest thumping stuff, but who cares? In two weeks the left will move onto the next hysterical "problem" and blow that out of proportion. Then the next time a Democrat is elected the right will act the same. And the cycle will repeat itself until everyone dies. It's like gravity, you can't make it go away.

rdm says

I hear they are giving away tickets and begging people to show up, that's what some people say.

Are you talking about the Clinton tour? Or was that Biden rallies?
Trump’s got em lined up out the door!

Hircus says

WineHorror1 says

Sorry to disappoint you but Tesla will not be allowed to fail. Book it.

Who do you think would save it?

Has Ford, GM or Chrysler been allowed to fail? Tesla is right in line with the new electric car requirement al a big daddy government. CAFE standards are going up to 50 soon.

komputodo says

socal2 says

*Tesla stock surges after setting new delivery and production records*

tesla stock surges when the algos saw that headline...it doesn't matter if it's true or not.

Sure - but based on Tesla massively increasing sales YOY and there still aren't any major auto-makers who have anything close to what Tesla has built in terms of product or infrastructure (charging networks, battery factories, institutional knowledge). I think Tesla is going to continue to be miles and miles ahead of the competitors for quite a while yet.

The vaunted Tesla killer Audi E-Tron already has a recall. The Porsche and Jaguar EV's are barely selling.

Here is Tesla 3 sales compared to other mid-sized luxury cars through May. I'd wager that over 90% of current Tesla drivers will never go back to conventional ICE cars after owning an EV with all of its benefits.

I'd rather have a Chevy Volt.

Booger says

I'd rather have a Chevy Volt.

The 2011 Volt's are still kicking with their original battery packs with very few failures thanks to the robust battery heating/cooling systems. Can't say the same thing for the Nissan Leafs.

I have a Chevy Bolt and prefer it to the Volt because it is quicker and more fun to drive around. That said, I would take a Tesla in a heartbeat if price wasn't an issue.

Tesla is toast.

If GM sells the Bolt and loses money on each one, how the fuck is Tesla going to make a dime selling Model 3 when the taxpayer subsidy ends eventually?

Incidentally, I see Bolts all over the place lately; I bet GM wishes people would stop buying them and buy a Surburban instead.

I would actually consider a Bolt if my car ever died; I probably don't drive more than 200 miles per week so the range would not inconvenience me.

Tesla is not going to disappear probably, someone will probably buy the company someday if they have anything clever patented.

Musk is a kook and a liar. He should not be CEO of any company.

He Should Repeal the 13th Amendment and Drive Around DC Capturing Escaped Negroes at (Gatling) Gun Point and Returning Them To Their Owners!

Um, Trump is not a Democrat. You need Biden, Byrd, and friends to do that.

Another Trumpian gaffe to the solar plexus! Better than when he called KimFuck a 'sweet little dictator'.

Technically, Aircraft One is right after I googled that for you, assuming the President isn’t on the plane.

socal2 says

I'd wager that over 90% of current Tesla drivers will never go back to conventional ICE cars after owning an EV with all of its benefits.

Yep.

Unless they purchase their next EV soon, though, it'll probably be some other Status Symbol brand when the Tesla car company is gone. Unless another car company "buys" Tesla (ahem, assumes the liabilities I mean), and keeps the brand name.

socal2 says

Booger says

I'd rather have a Chevy Volt.

The 2011 Volt's are still kicking with their original battery packs with very few failures thanks to the robust battery heating/cooling systems. Can't say the same thing for the Nissan Leafs.

I have a Chevy Bolt and prefer it to the Volt because it is quicker and more fun to drive around. That said, I would take a Tesla in a heartbeat if price wasn't an issue.

Tesla shorts are going down!
I'm long (5+) years holding horizon.

Just want to come here and show that I put my money on Tesla. I bought $68,289 of TSLA stock (long, cash no margin) between 6/26/19 – 7/1/19. Adding my original position of 40 shares.
The shorts are going to get ass-raped. There will be panic covering which will pump the share price up. The Shanghai Gigafactory is ahead of schedule. When the G3 start ramping for the huge Chinese EV market demand for Model 3, it is going to be close to million units/year. Unbelievable? Believe it. The Chinese government wants to move rapidly away from ICE and they are partnering with Tesla to make it happen. Xi decided it wasn’t happening fast enough with domestic EV companies. Tesla is a premium brand, very high demand in China. They can lower the cost by building there by at least $7-10K usd per M3.
There is NO EV competition for Tesla, everyone is at least 3 years behind and falling. The ICE brand EV’s today can’t even touch the X or S, much less the M3. Model Y is coming. Then the pickup, semi.
Tesla is going to be the greatest American auto company in 5 to 10 years when ICE automaker finally wakes up. Happy 4th of July!