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Either Trump saved 97% of the people who were going to die from this disease according to the scientists who you leftists worship, and you are a bitter whiny small person who can’t even admit when a person you dislike does a good job. OR the scientist have no freaking clue what they are doing, this was one of the largest overreactions in world history, and all future warnings from “experts”, including global warming need to be taken with a grain of salt.

Pick one.

ThreeBays says

Tenpoundbass says

He saved about 1,970,000 lives according to Dr Fauci and Dr Bitchx

That's right, he had to walk back everything he said, listen to Dr Fauci and Birx to save 1,970,000 lives.

Shame that right now he has the loaded gun pointed at his foot again.

Should have done nothing about travel from China because RACIST

2/3 of sampled people are communists.

Also stupid website to some dudes blog lol. Oh how low we have fallen to get the dose of TDS.

ThreeBays says

That's all he talks about right? And that's supposed to make up for sitting on his ass for the next 48 days as 430,000 people still traveled to the US from China after the travel ban and we got a massive outbreak anyway?

I'd argue that if it was thought that it is a dangerous disease then instead of screaming ORANGE RACIST! HATES CHINESE! everyone should have agreed that closing travel with China is a good thing, and should have closed all other international travel as well. Instead, D politicians screamed ORANGEMAN BAD!
Would you like a few quotes from international health organizations and/or US politicians about how Trump was wrong about restricting Chiinese travel?
Also, I tend to disagree that we needed any restrictions other than self-isolating old farts and sick people, but that is beyond the point. Trump closes border, he is RACIST! He does not close border, he is incompetent and does not do enough!

The media has been lying it’s ass off since the cv was first discovered. US residents are right to distrust them. The fucking LA Times runs this today:

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-04-17/usc-coronavirus-survey#null

“Less than half of L.A. County residents still have jobs amid coronavirus crisis“

While a true statement, the effect is that most readers will interpret that as half of the people in LA County lost their jobs due to the shutdown. Actually it’s about 16%. Bad, very bad, but not 50%. Furthermore the Times writers and editors knew exactly what they were doing.

This is called deception. Lying. The Times and other US msm do it like its second nature. They do not consider it immoral or wrong. They are leftists with no compass guided by religion. Really they have become satanic at this point.

The Psychopath Media. The time of yelling fire in the movie theater to cause a stampede is long past. Psychopaths don't care if a hundred people lose a hundred dollars, as long as they gained one dollar.

ThreeBays says

rd6B says

I'd argue that if it was thought that it is a dangerous disease then instead of screaming ORANGE RACIST! HATES CHINESE!

Trump closed travel, then downplayed the disease. For a month and a half. Isn't that odd? Why did he close anything if he didn't think it was dangerous?

Easy to explain, he closed it early which was the right thing to do but thought it would stem most potential transmissions. He didn't know and noone did how many had already been infected by that time. So he talked it down like most people would have as many were caught off guard by the quick spread. He changed his tune when he learned about the severity, as we all did, Fauci, CDC, WHO... Still by closing travel from China he was ahead of most.

Can you fucking Orange man bad, infected TDS libtards just give the man the credit he so richly claims:

"President Trump absurdly claimed he saved “billions” of lives with his measures against the coronavirus.

Said Trump: “It could have been billions of people if we had not done what we did.”

The entire population of the U.S. is just 330 million."

The guy is a wizard he can take a fake disease that is going to go away magically in April and then save billions of people from something that was a hoax. Could Jesus do that? I think not.

ThreeBays says

Trump closed travel,

did he?

then downplayed the disease. For a month and a half.

Yes

"The big picture: At least 430,000 people have flown to the U.S. from China since Dec. 31, when China first informed the World Health Organization about cases of novel coronavirus in Wuhan"
and
"Nearly 40,000 Americans and authorized travelers have come into the U.S. from China since President Trump imposed travel restrictions more than two months ago"
and
"New research indicates that the coronavirus began to circulate in the New York area by mid-February, weeks before the first confirmed case, and that it was brought to the region mainly by travelers from Europe, not Asia."

ThreeBays says

That's right, he had to walk back everything he said, listen to Dr Fauci and Birx to save 1,970,000 lives.

He put that sawed off punk mother fucker out front and center to spread that lie.

All of the decades of hard work progressives, Liberals, Socialists and Commies, but I keep repeating myself.
Is all gone, thanks to this stupid stunt. But you keep posting Communist Propaganda.

Nobody I know is bitching about Trump acting too slow. They are Bitching about the son of a bitch rotten Democrats they are going to Vote out in November.

Good Times, good times...

Tim Aurora says

Or you the alt-right media and Trump, which just wanted everyone to burn in the theater.

https://patrick.net/post/1330788/2020-03-15-obama-and-trump-response-to-pandemics

Ceffer says

The Psychopath Media. The time of yelling fire in the movie theater to cause a stampede is long past. Psychopaths don't care if a hundred people lose a hundred dollars, as long as they gained one dollar.

What alt right media?

He's not campaigning he's exposing Biased media lies.

You just have the loser's perspective in all of this. Yes, you see! This is what we in our winner's circle call Winning.
And it just burn's the loser's ass, doesn't it?

Go have a cry with Fatback Gerald, Crying Chuck, and Drunk Again Nancy.

You mean those bitches China and Washington Post? No there is nothing those commie, god hating, baby killing institutions won't lie about. Not 1 thing....

He was kinda busy getting impeached.

Who fucking cares? We all saw what was happening around the world. All of the losers that want to blame Trump for a virus you didn't catch raise your commie little pathetic hand?

There's a Fucker, that's what's wrong with this country!

thomasdong1776 says

Poor baby can't walk and chew gum at the same time.

Biden?

thomasdong1776 says

More than a dozen U.S. researchers, physicians and public health experts, many of them from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, were working full time at the Geneva headquarters of the World Health Organization as the novel coronavirus emerged late last year and transmitted real-time information about its discovery and spread in China to the Trump administration, according to U.S. and international officials.

Was that information different from what WHO was communicating officially? Because on Jan 14th WHO was saying that the virus can't transmit between people. And they still say there should be no travel retrictions to this very day. If that "dozen of our guys inside the WHO" where saying the same bullshit, what's the use? If they were saying something different, it shows that WHO was willing to bend the truth in order to appease their CCP masters.

What a weak fucking post by an obvious Chinese shill. 80% of America and the world hates your guts right now. We aren’t accepting your pathetically transparent lies anymore. And the WaPo has next to zero credibility with the public.

Tim Aurora says

14 January 2020

WHO's technical lead for the response noted in a press briefing there may have been limited human-to-human transmission of the coronavirus (in the 41 confirmed cases), mainly through family members, and that there was a risk of a possible wider outbreak. The lead also said that human-to-human transmission would not be surprising given our experience with SARS, MERS and other respiratory pathogens.

Official WHO website:



Disease outbreak news
14 January 2020
....

As the traveler did not report having visited the market linked to most of the other cases, it is vital that investigations continue to identify the source of infection. To date, China has not reported any cases of infection among healthcare workers or contacts of the cases. Based on the available information there is no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission. No additional cases have been detected since 3 January 2020 in China.

Additional investigation is needed to ascertain the presence of human-to-human transmission, modes of transmission, common source of exposure and the presence of asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic cases that are undetected. It is critical to review all available information to fully understand the potential transmissibility among humans.
...

https://www.who.int/csr/don/14-january-2020-novel-coronavirus-thailand/en/

TEOTWAWKI says

Based on the available information there is no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission. No additional cases have been detected since 3 January 2020 in China.

They're both WHOPPERS of a lie, and it's scary that there are health officials who would have enough lack of shame to print the latter remark.

Washington Post.

Next.

But the president, who often touts a personal relationship with Chinese President Xi Jinping and is reluctant to inflict damage on a trade deal with Beijing, appears to view the WHO as a more defenseless target.

Thomas Dong, why are you citing an article that is editorial masquerading as reporting?

Tim Aurora says

22 January 2020

WHO mission to China issued a statement saying that there was evidence of human-to-human transmission in Wuhan but more investigation was needed to understand the full extent of transmission.

22- 23 January 2020

The WHO Director- General convened an Emergency Committee (EC) under the International Health Regulations (IHR 2005) to assess whether the outbreak constituted a public health emergency of international concern. The independent members from around the world could not reach a consensus based on the evidence available at the time. They asked to be reconvened within 10 days after receiving more information.

Sooo, as of Jan 22nd there were no firm statement wrt human-to-human transmission and the decision whether CCP virus outbreak constituted a public health emergency was postponed till early February at worst.

Then, on January 30th they finally said:

"The Emergency Committee on the novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) under the International Health Regulations (IHR 2005) was reconvened on 30 January. WHO declared the outbreak to be a public health emergency of international concern.

https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20200131-sitrep-11-ncov.pdf?sfvrsn=de7c0f7_4"

On Jan 31st POTUS enacted a travel ban. Was it too late? By how many hours?

Bonus question: When would Obama enact a travel ban in the same situation? On what grounds?

Tim Aurora says

If you do not like the news, call it Fake news. Brilliant Trump . Now go and look at the 4000+ document lies with proof that Wapo has on you.

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says

Thomas Dong, why are you citing an article that is editorial masquerading as reporting?

I cited a editorial part (there’s more than one or two in that article) and you simply ignored it.

If the shoe fits...

Tim Aurora says

If you do not like the news, call it Fake news. Brilliant Trump .

We don't like the Media and Democrats using Communist Chinese talking points to try to divide our nation for political gain during time of crisis.

But you guys do what you do.

The absurd "Trump has blood on his hands" because he didn't put a total lockdown and travel ban on New York back in February while Cuomo and DeBlasio were telling New Yorkers to take the subway and party in Chinatown is Orwellian.

FFS - do you guys really not realize how lame and petty this Monday morning quarterbacking sounds to normal people? Especially when we have hundreds of statements, videos, reports and editorials from our Media and Democrat Leaders in February/March saying Wuhan AIDS is nothing to worry about?

thomasdong1776 says

Onvacation says

He was kinda busy getting impeached.

Poor baby can't walk and chew gum at the same time.

Can you stop an airborne virus??? I'll wait.... if you can you'll make billions and maybe trillions. But hey, bitch about one person trying to handle something.

WookieMan says

Can you stop an airborne virus??? I'll wait.

Progs think they can control the weather 100 years from now if we enact certain tax and regulation policies today.

So don't underestimate their grasps on Science.

socal2 says

WookieMan says

Can you stop an airborne virus??? I'll wait.

Progs think they can control the weather 100 years from now if we enact certain tax and regulation policies today.

So don't underestimate their grasps on Science.

Funny you mention climate/weather. We're far better off in that realm with more dead people from this virus. They produce emissions. Unfortunately I don't think the (EDIT: increase in) overall death rate during this period will move much more than 0.5% worldwide. So I guess more people get wetbulb'd

The hypocrisy of people up in arms about this virus AND global warming is rather amusing. One helps the other, but they're too afraid to admit their bullshit.

Tim Aurora says

My point is Trump, who is a pathological liar, should have been able to see through the Chinese lies , especially with his intelligence agencies giving him all the reports, I was. I ordered a mask on January 27th, and I had no access to any intelligence. Patnet started a COVID-19 thread at the beginning of January.

Short of implementing a quarantine and travel ban in and out of the entire New York metro area back in February against the will of the local Democrat Governor and Mayors - what could Trump have done that would have made a meaningful difference?

Even today, there are no obvious silver bullets or missed opportunities that could save us from what is inflicting the entire planet.

Tim Aurora says

I ordered a mask on January 27th, and I had no access to any intelligence.

So you decided that WHO is unreliable and should not be trusted?

Tim Aurora says

Trump fucking administration is inefficient at all things.

Because they waited for WHO to declare the public emergency? Does that mean that trusting WHO was a mistake?

socal2 says

Even today, there are no obvious silver bullets or missed opportunities that could save us from what is inflicting the entire planet.

Bingo. Tim you owe this guy a beer.

HEYYOU says

It's so easy to make RepCons look like fools as tears run down their faces as their loved ones drown.

Do you and AF have a bet going to get the most ignores on Patnet? Serious question.

socal2 says

try to divide our nation for political gain during time of crisis.

This might be a valid point if it wasn't for the pie hole and stubby twitter fingers of Trump dividing the country every fucking day. Is he uniteing the country in crisis? Everything is beautiful as long as you don't question Trump's actions and views, continually kiss his ring, don't get too much plubicity. and constantly say what a great job he is doing, in other words mimic Pence, a repugnant sycophant and in house mortician. Liberate Minnesota , Michigan, Virginia. Conveniently all run by Dem Govs. Such a great uniter.

rdm says

Everything is beautiful as long as you don't question Trump's actions and views,

Everything is cool if the Media and Democrats don't lamely claim Trump is responsible for thousands of deaths because he wasn't a dictator enough.

It would be even cooler if we didn't see that the Media and Democrats are total hypocrites from statements made just a few days ago.

Remember this?

*Cuomo rips idea of banning New Yorkers from traveling to other states*
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/03/28/coronavirus-gov-andrew-cuomo-rips-possible-new-york-travel-ban/2934494001/

*New York Gov. Cuomo says Trump has no authority to impose quarantine: ‘It would be illegal’*
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/28/ny-gov-cuomo-says-trump-has-no-authority-to-impose-quarantine.html

I can't surf or go to the beach in California because New Yorkers needed to continue to ride their disease ridden subways and were free to fly all over the country infecting the rest of us?

Do you and AF have a bet going to get the most ignores on Patnet?

Esprit de Corps for Ignore Whore du Jour, the poor boor.

socal2 says

what could Trump have done that would have made a meaningful difference?

You cant be serious. I know he claims his response was a 10 and he takes no responsibility....for anything. He (his administration) did virtually nothing regarding testing for months while lying about it to the public and we are still behind the curve as he now dumps all responsibility on the states. Way behind many countries on a per-capita basis. The supply of PPE has been a disgrace, this has likely caused many healthcare and first responders to contract the disease. If the Feds had recommended the shelter in place when or before CA. it could have significantly lowered the death rate. Just a few of his greatest misses

rdm says

If the Feds had recommended the shelter in place when or before CA. it could have significantly lowered the death rate

I'm pretty sure that if Feds had recommended SIP when or before CA none of the blue states would implement it. Including CA.

rdm says

If the Feds had recommended the shelter in place when or before CA

Is that something you want though? The federal government to tell you to stay home? Telling you to shut your business down and in the process not be able to feed your family or help out your employees? It's a god damn airborne virus. It's not a burglar that we can shoot or put up a fence to keep out. It's here. It has spread. It's not leaving. The cat is out of the bag, get over it. Open back up and move resources where they need to be as hot spots creep up. Not complicated.

rdm says

If the Feds had recommended the shelter in place when or before CA. it could have significantly lowered the death rate. Just a few of his greatest misses

Did you miss the links and quotes I provided by Cuomo?

He was threatening to sue Trump on March 28th for floating the idea of locking down New York.