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HydroCabron says

Anecdotes are not statistics, but I have heard several moderately technically-savvy people say they'll be going to the Apple store for their next machine, thanks to Windows 8. Just fucking tired of the bullshit.

I've been a Microsoftcentric programer since 1997. A year or so after Windows 95 came out, it was more geared for the tech savvy and those interested in being tech savvy. It was not the OS of the lazy ass.

And they pretty much stayed that company until they decided to get in the Toy business.

I can't think of any company that would run their enterprise on Windows 8, or should I say have their end users use Windows 8 for productivity. And when it comes to writing Kiosk type applications, our company writes apps in Android and iOS, they have no plans on creating a Windows 8 version. Nor are they concerned on if the apps we're currently writing will work on Windows 8.

After my Win7 boxes are so antiquated that I have to move on. If Microsoft doesn't get their shit together, and wake up and remember who buttered their bread. I will become a Linux nerd for servers computing, and a Mac fanboy for desktop applications.

Obligatory:

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Sarah Palin

bmwman91 says

Just out of curiosity, what is it that people hate about Win8 so much?

It's technologically better than Windows 7, no doubt.

I hit the Win key, or Ctrl-Esc, all day, type the first three letters of the application I want to run, and we're off. No need to see that Metro panel. Tired of accidentally activating the charms bar when I don't want it. Now have to go through Control Panel to get to Administrative Tools, Log Viewer, or Services. I have no idea what those all consuming, eat-your-screen image and web and PDF viewers are about - right clicking doesn't help: they're just an insult.

An operating system should be a servant, not another application to master. I would be fine if they had just made it a little annoying, but they also added Metro, which is poorly integrated with the desktop model. How they expected most Metro users to work simultaneously on, say, a Word and an Excel doc is beyond me. I still haven't figured out how to move directly from one Metro panel to the next.

TL;DR: Abortion

If windows 8 is so great, why cant it have a Windows 7 and Windows XP skin? Its perfectly doable, but the psychopaths at MSFT want to force people to do things a certain way.

If office 2013 is so great, why doesnt it have a skin for Office 2003?

Winamp has skins, the all might MSFT cant do that? What a sick joke MSFT is. Losers.

bmwman91 says

Just out of curiosity, what is it that people hate about Win8 so much?

I think it's feature creep honestly. Maybe there are some great things about Windows 8, but I don't know how to use them. I feel like I am wrestling with all the new stuff in Windows 8, and never had that feeling with Win XP, Win7, etc.

I find Microsoft is always very poor at explaining why their new features are great (see Xbox One announcement). They might actually be great, but they won't let you know, and you probably have to find out for yourself.

Compare that to Apple.

It's a toy for kids. Younger generation aren't into developing apps and working in IT. Microsoft is sheepishly trying to placate the young who have no interest in working in an office writing code.

What they are going to end up with is a generation that uses iOS and Android no matter what, and a bunch of geezers writing code for those platforms. Microsoft will go the way of every other tech company that veered off course of their core demographic.

If Microsoft want's me to write apps for a touchscreen hand help device, all they have to do is ask. I've got plenty of Android and Apple devices in my household.

I thought I had a desktop, but I guess I was mistaken.

Goran_K says

Compare that to Apple.

Apple would be in the right to bring back their geek vs nerd advertisement campaign. But this time, the commercial ends with the apple guy giving the MS guy a Wedgie, or Swirly, or even a good ole titty twister. And I don't think anyone would call it bullying at this point.

Do you think that Chinese need loans to buy houses here? No, and if they did, it would be loans from Chinese banks, invisible to this survey.

Btw, I understand that realtors who wish to lure Chinese cash buyers to their listed property try to make the price end with an "8." Like $508,888 or $698,000.
I guess 8 is the number for wealth there or something.

It's always a terd taste contest with you guys.

bgamall4 says

The neocons in the Republican Party planned 9/11/2001 and they planned the resulting wars.

Only nuts believe this, but it's a pretty good commentary on the left today.

Dan8267 says

The moral of the story is that natural resources must be wisely managed and a society must avoid depleting resources faster than it can renew them whether
through overpopulation or unrestrained consumerism.

What about driving an expensive sports car? ;-)

As much as I love a conspiracy there's just no way we bombed the world trade center. Why fly a plane into, why now just push the button at 10am on 9/11/01 and marvel at the implosion, while they blame Osama Bin Laden for it?

It make no sense to fly two planes into them. If the managed to set bombs off in the WTC in the 90's then it would have been highly plausible that people would have bought it, if the official word was terrorist rigged another bomb and were successful this time.

Flying two planes serves no purpose at all. Unless G. W. Bush was diabolical genius capable of knowing exactly how everything after 911 would play out to the tee.

I don't see anyone in our government that smart.

Everything has happened post 911 is just the same greedy scum bags being opportunists as the same motherfuckers, that are giving us the same fucked up health system in America. When most Americans believed we were getting a healthcare overhaul.

Call it Crazy says

That's definitely a sign of organic growth of the recovery!! Hmmm, make sure someone dies so you can buy a house.... Nice!!

I didn't say that its a sign of organic growth. You missed the point.

bgamall4 says

We have proved 9/11 here on these forums.

You didn't prove 9/11 you speculated.

freak80 says

What about driving an expensive sports car? ;-)

I wanted a safe convertible, so I took the intersection of the set of all convertibles and the set of all safe cars and it was a singleton.

What's the point of living in Florida if you don't drive a convertible? The friendly police? The excellent public school system? The state's mastery of federal elections?

You're only proving my point, about how our government never lets a good crisis go to waste.

We're fucked at this point, anything that needs fixing, we end up with a worse process. Because now in a post 911 America, we take already fucked up situations, and make them more fucked up with cronyism and bad defensive journalism, with a hint of Orwellian regulation. Get used to the Cure for all of America's problems being solved by corporations monetizing the situation.

Recent Dow day is Wednesday, August 21, 2013

bgamall4 says

I hope this doesn't shatter your faith in your Republican government
captain:

http://edition.presstv.ir/detail/121085.html

Gawd dude - linking to Iran's state run news site as if that gives you any credibility?

The nutters running Iran also believe the Holocaust was a myth and the Jews control everything.

Do you believe that conspiracy too?

If Dr. Phil loses his female audience, he loses his show. He was stupid to even bring up the issue, and stupider to question the feminist agenda! His show is just vaginavision. Most of that crap is, these days. I cut the cord two months ago and honestly I'm much happier.

VanityFair??
Sounds like Dr. Phil isn't the only one who lost his balls.

they are just prepping for 2014 version of obamacare...

Dan8267 says

I'd post a funny YouTube video demonstrating said campaign, but YouTube has banned me for watching too many cat videos. Die YouTube Die!

It's the youtube version of rehab. They make you go cold turkey on the cat videos.

Benghazi is way, way worse than 9-11.

After 9-11, thousands of federal bureaucrats were fired and cabinet-level Bush Administration officials were dismissed; Bush honored his pledge to restore honor and dignity to the White House.

The Travel Office firings, the Lincoln Bedroom, and now Benghazi: When will the liberal media wake up to these outrageous scandals?

Quigley says

vaginavision

Hehe.

M-F, FF,& AF only apply to little boys.

Has anyone in the United States had vaginal sex this decade?

Oh? When did you immigrate from Saudi Arabia??

bgamall4 says

CaptainShuddup says

You didn't prove 9/11 you speculated.

No, if you put all the evidence together it is a certainty that our government was involved.

A-Fuck, what's wrong? Why so blue? Keeping waxing eloquent about Walmart. I'll keep buying more shares of this fine dividend growth company. I'll stop buying and sell when they stop raising the dividend. What will I do w/ the proceeds? Why i'll pour them into the other 15-20 dividend growth companies.

I sure as shit don't do all my shopping at Walmart, don't eat at McDonalds, don't smoke Marlboros, and don't swill Coke driving down the road in a big scary truck. But guess what? Millions of people do around the globe. And that's why I invest in WMT, MCD, KO, PM (or MO), and CVX, among others.

Boo fuckin' hoo. Nobody can change my watch battery, some stores aren't perfectly clean, and (horror of horrors), there are TONS of people like me trying to save money, and i have to (GASP!) wait in line....

That alone should tell you that if so many people are willing to tolerate these supposed atrocities, it tells me that Walmart is doing fine. Moths to the Flame, I tells ya.......Buy on the dips, and never sell until they stop increasing the divvies. Like shooting fish in a barrel....

You think only poor people shop at Walmart? Wait till obamacare kicks in, turning millions of full-time workers into part-time slaves. And the only way these freshly minted slaves will make ends meet is by shopping at walmart. (BTW, Soilent Green will be located in isle 5, made up of the old folks that (ahem) didn't convince the death panels)...

Smellz ya later!

bgamall4 says

My natural father was Jewish and I was adopted at three months.

And I am circumcised, that gives me about the same level of credibility as you have to spout conspiracy theories about "the Jews", that is zero, which is apparently close to your IQ.

Zombies need to shop somewhere.

Mark D says

names are thrown around here all the time by not only men but also women, in even in this thread. a fact you conveniently ignored. i didn't see you come in here earlier and give Patrick the "helpful" feedback you are trying to give him now? what's the difference this time? because this time the victim is a woman?

don't you find that is sexist of you? your action has shown what a men-hater you really are. and don't act like you are concerned about Patrick's readership. you are here to defend your fellow men haters. talk about pathetic, you should look the mirror as well.

That's pretty convoluted. In fact I do find the whole atmosphere around here to be pretty disgusting, and I have said so.

I don't hate men. I think most people who hate the opposite sex have probably had some very bad experiences and probably they contributed to that with lack of judgment in who they've gotten involved with, poor relationship skills, lack of insight into themselves and/or a paranoid worldview that seeks easy scapegoats.

I have not had such experiences. Selfish people, mean people, users, liars, con artists - they're not hard to recognize. I don't let people into my life if I don't think they're good people with good intentions, and I don't use or abuse people myself.

I'm not concerned about Patrick's readership. I am curious, though, about why he makes no effort to raise the tone of discussion. Presumably he would like to expand his readership. Presumably he would like to be proud of his site. But maybe not. Maybe he's an asshole too.

denise says

I am curious, though, about why he makes no effort to raise the tone of discussion.

Btw, one other point. Some people like friendly debate. But when done in writing with personal friends, because of that issue about how hard it is to see tone in writing, you risk hurting a friends feelings if you argue with them in emails or online.

But arguing with people you don't know in a forum like this eliminates this problem. Sort of. Many of us still have the ability to avoid dysfunction or extreme rudeness most of the time in this forum, and understand that even here, respect has value. There are several people around here that I respect a lot.

Speaking for myself, I'm pretty respectful with most, but I'll admit, I let my inner asshole come out some times with certain personalities around here. Funny thing is, that a couple of those that I'm most blunt with, that I profoundly disagree with on politics, I sort of think of as brothers anyways. It's kinda weird.

Just because people are digging deep to find large cash reserves to buy real estate right now doesn't mean it is a wise investment, remotely sustainable, or irreversible.

The money is based on nothing but hope and fear. Both can disappear instantly.

HydroCabron says

Has anyone in the United States had vaginal sex this decade?

Lesbians.

bgamall4 says

The neocons in the Republican Party planned 9/11/2001 and they planned the resulting wars.

How can you explain the first attempted WTC bombing back in '93 when Clinton was prez? Did the 'neocons' plan this too?

I don't blame Clinton for the '93 attempt, and can't blame Bush for 9/11 either.

if your certain your government was involved, you must be saudi..

bgamall4 says

SoftShell says

Oh? When did you immigrate from Saudi Arabia??

What is your point?

bgamall4 says

The neocons in the Republican Party planned 9/11/2001 and they planned the resulting wars.

.....With 98 senators approving the war, IIRC. That includes senators Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, etal.

Not in the Bay area they haven't ... all the cheerleaders here for SF Bay area real estate sure look cute in their pleated skirts ... and soon they'll be able to conduct all their romantic activities in a "glow" that will illuminate them forever....

"3 scientists from the GEOMAR Research Center for Marine Geosciences showed that radiation on the West Coast of North America could end up being 10 times higher than in Japan..."