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I like music, but 90% of the time I can't name who's playing a particular song without some hard thinking. Ummmm..... something Chili Peppers...... Who is in the band? Damifino! I have one of those friends who can name everyone in the band, then start going back to what bands they were in before. I consider you guys with your encyclopedic knowledge of such trivia to be closer to Rain Man than normal people. Please go back to your Fantasy League and leave us alone.

It seems being a Democrat and a Baseball fan go hand in hand. I fondly remember another "huge baseball fan" that grew up in Chicago and just happened to be a Yankee fan "all her life." The fact that "Joan of Arc" Hillary was running for the Senate seat in New York had absolutely nothing to do with it. Anyone that believes it did, is obviously a right wing, cynical hater of all that is true and just.

RayAmerica says

It seems being a Democrat and a Baseball fan go hand in hand. I fondly remember another “huge baseball fan” that grew up in Chicago and just happened to be a Yankee fan “all her life.” The fact that “Joan of Arc” Hillary was running for the Senate seat in New York had absolutely nothing to do with it. Anyone that believes it did, is obviously a right wing, cynical hater of all that is true and just.

Wow. So, when your wife asks if she looks fat in her new dress, what do you say?

RayAmerica says

elliemae says

I’m a dodgers fan, grew up in Los Angeles. But I couldn’t name a player if my life depended upon it. Does that make me a liar?

A “fan” that can’t name a single player on his or her favorite team is either a) completely stupid or b) a liar or c) both. Which is it?

You hurt my feelings and I'll never recover - I'm always hurt when some random poster attacks me on an anonymous interweb real estate forum. They only do that when they're trying, really trying - but don't have anything to contribute. None of your rhetoric has anything to do with reality, it's just rhetoric.

tatupu70 says

Wow. So, when your wife asks if she looks fat in her new dress, what do you say?

I don't have that problem. My wife is very trim, looks like a model and is very intelligent. You might want to pose that question to Little ellie's "significant udder."

President Obama taught courses in constitutional law at the University of Chicago, and referred to himself as " a Constitutional Law Professor". On March 30, 2007, he was quoted as saying "I was a Constitutional Law Professor, which means unlike the current president, I actually respect the Constitution".

If that's true, perhaps he, or someone else, could point to the specific part of the Constitution that authorizes him to FORCE every American to buy health insurance.

(PS for small minded readers: if you want to respond - respond to the message, not the messenger).

Honest Abe, are you a racist like your namesake? Just curious.

"I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races - that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And in as much as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race." - Abraham Lincoln, September 18th 1858.

Vicente - I stopped reading at the end of your first sentence. Perhaps you can't read. I requested readers to respond to the message - not personally attack the messenger. So what do you do???
You insinuate that I am a racist. You attack the messenger. You have demonstrated that you have no intellectual honesty.

Honest Abe says

(PS for small minded readers: if you want to respond - respond to the message, not the messenger).

Stupid is as stupid does. You set that precedent long ago, so don't expect to be taken seriously.

Honest Abe says

Vicente - I stopped reading at the end of your first sentence. Perhaps you can’t read. I requested readers to respond to the message - not personally attack the messenger. So what do you do???
You insinuate that I am a racist. You attack the messenger. You have demonstrated that you have no intellectual honesty.

Awww, is yer feelings hurt?

RayAmerica says

You might want to pose that question to Little ellie’s “significant udder.”

Yea, personal attacks work so well, don't they? Especially when you constantly claim that you're a victim of personal attacks. Once again, this is why you're not taken seriously.

But we're having fun with you and that's all that counts. If you like being the butt of the joke, guys, please do go on...

Vicente ... very interesting quote by a man that was imperfect and a product of his times. Lincoln also wanted to deport most blacks back to Africa because he was convinced they would never acclimate themselves to this society. By the way, how many whites belong to the Congressional Black Caucus? There was a very leftist white Democratic Congressman by the name of Cohen (I believe that's his name) that attempted to join the caucus within the last couple of years. Rep. Cohen was denied membership. The official reason given by the Caucus was "only Blacks are allowed to belong to this caucus." I'd be curious to hear your opinion on this matter; do you believe the Black Caucus is practicing racism by refusing his membership because of his race?

elliemae says

Yea, personal attacks work so well, don’t they? Especially when you constantly claim that you’re a victim of personal attacks. Once again, this is why you’re not taken seriously.

Great comeback by the Queen of Insults. My apologies to your "significant udder."

I'll let him know you worship the Queen. You're in good company.

Honest Abe says

If that’s true, perhaps he, or someone else, could point to the specific part of the Constitution that authorizes him to FORCE every American to buy health insurance.

You're not going to be forced to buy anything, just pay the penalty tax for exercising your God-given right to go without health insurance.

I think you're taking this "live free or die" thing too literally tho.

Troy ... Didn't you promise you were "done here ... I'm out of here, this is it, my final post. Thanks Patrick but this is it, my final, last, parting, never to be repeated post. Goodbye all, it's been fun?"

Troy says

Honest Abe says

If that’s true, perhaps he, or someone else, could point to the specific part of the Constitution that authorizes him to FORCE every American to buy health insurance.

You’re not going to be forced to buy anything, just pay the penalty tax for exercising your God-given right to go without health insurance.
I think you’re taking this “live free or die” thing too literally tho.

Perhaps not. Maybe he's planning to join David Koresh and Jim Jones.

Troy, what part of the constitution authorizes forcing people to buy health insurance or force them to pay a penalty if they don't ???

Abe--

Where in the Constitution does it say you can post inane questions on Internet message boards?

Honest Abe says

Troy, what part of the constitution authorizes forcing people to buy health insurance or force them to pay a penalty if they don’t ???

"The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration."

Troy says

“The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.”

Does "lay and collect taxes" translate in your mind into the government FORCING its citizens to BUY from a PRIVATE entity, in this case, private insurance companies? And if they don't buy this private policy, they will be penalized with a monetary fine?

RayAmerica says

Troy says

“The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.”

Does “lay and collect taxes” translate in your mind into the government FORCING its citizens to BUY from a PRIVATE entity, in this case, private insurance companies? And if they don’t buy this private policy, they will be penalized with a monetary fine?

The gummint isn't forcing me to buy insurance any more than it is forcing me to take out a home mortgage or have kids, both of which would reduce my income tax.

Stop using words that don't mean what you're trying to say.

^ you can pay for health insurance (which I already do to Blue Shield ANYWAY) or you get the privilege of paying more taxes to the government.

This is to encourage people to cover themselves and not rely on public charity when they need medical services. It is very much a conservative Republican approach to the public health problem -- it's what the Republicans proposed in 1993 in opposition to HillaryCare, it's what the Heritage Foundation (!) mooted in the last decade, and it's what RomneyCare is.

I understand it's not libertarian, but guess what, this is not a libertarian state.

rich_wicks says

Why don’t you people start using the internet for more than just surfing for porn and downloading movies illegally?

Thanks for asking. The reason is that surfing for porn & illegally downloading movies is much more fun than many other past times, such as answering asinine rhetorical questions posted on interweb forums. We still manage to work the other stuff in, though.

Nomograph says

Just get in line behind that nice Mexican family with 12 screaming kids.

Wrong AGAIN. I counted 13.

Nomograph says

Big brother will take care of you, RayRay.

Isn't Big Brother wonderful? I'm so glad we have a Ministry of Plenty.

Nomo - what PROOF do you have that (1) Ray America is a "low-performing" person? and (2) that he "takes SO MUCH MORE FROM SOCIETY THAN HE PRODUCES"??

Or could it be just more personal attacks - as usual. Please put up or shut up.

Honest Abe says

Nomo - what PROOF do you have that (1) Ray America is a “low-performing” person? and (2) that he “takes SO MUCH MORE FROM SOCIETY THAN HE PRODUCES”??
Or could it be just more personal attacks - as usual. Please put up or shut up.

Read his posts. Read your posts. You're angry and constantly fighting against those who disagree with you. If you feel this strongly, why don't you pay the money to start your own forum about how horrible people with political views that are different than yours are? Maybe you two (or more) could split the money - but that would be sharing and bordering on socialism.

Nomograph says

I’m just throwing his own insulting style right back at him. It’s pretty repulsive, isn’t it?

Be specific and quote the exact insults I've used on you. Don't hold your breath folks.

Abe .... that's all Nomo & ellie have. Ever notice they NEVER address any issues we bring up? I wonder why? Could it be they can't? That's why they always use insults and lies. It's right out of Saul Alinsky.

RayAmerica says

Ever notice they NEVER address any issues we bring up? I wonder why?

It's because you never raise any worthwhile issues. But at least you've learned how to spell "Saul Alinsky."
elliemae says

You’re angry and constantly fighting against those who disagree with you. If you feel this strongly, why don’t you pay the money to start your own forum about how horrible people with political views that are different than yours are?

Really, why fight the man when you could be one?

Did you guys notice that most people don't respond to you - that the only ones who do are those of us who are screwing with you?

Without us you'd be lonely.

tatupu70 says

Abe–
Where in the Constitution does it say you can post inane questions on Internet message boards?

Typical reply by the left when they can't answer a simple question.

RayAmerica says

tatupu70 says

Abe–
Where in the Constitution does it say you can post inane questions on Internet message boards?

Typical reply by the left when they can’t answer a simple question.

You're still here?

elliemae says

It’s because you never raise any worthwhile issues.

Another gem from the genius that posts such serious and worthwhile issues such as "I'm here for you, Brad Pitt." Or how about "Lawyer sues to get coat back." Deep, very deep. Thanks for playing Little ellie. LOL

RayAmerica says

elliemae says

It’s because you never raise any worthwhile issues.

Another gem from the genius that posts such serious and worthwhile issues such as “I’m here for you, Brad Pitt.” Or how about “Lawyer sues to get coat back.” Deep, very deep. Thanks for playing Little ellie. LOL

I'm pleased that you follow all my posts so closely. Makes me feel warm & fuzzy.

The Wall Street Journal reports: "As ranks of uninusured expand, nation faces shortage of 150,000 doctors in 15 years. Hahaha - I told you so.

My guess is that it'll be far worse than that. More doctors will retire sooner due to red tape, government interference, endless "forms" to fill in etc, etc, etc. And becoming a doctor will have less appeal for many of the same reasons. Rationed care at its worst is what is on the horizon in the United States of Utopia - comrade, hahaha. I told you so.

Honest Abe says

My guess is that it’ll be far worse than that. More doctors will retire sooner due to red tape, government interference, endless “forms” to fill in etc, etc, etc. And becoming a doctor will have less appeal for many of the same reasons. Rationed care at its worst is what is on the horizon in the United States of Utopia - comrade, hahaha. I told you so.

Not sure you can say I told you so before the fact....

How about cause and effect. How about unintended consequences. These are things liberal, progressive, socialistic, do-gooder democrats never think or care about. They only care about "GOOD INTENTIONS" Unfortunately they never care about the outcome or results. Its called The Tyranny of Good Intentions, comrade.

"Yet America keeps on keeping on". Are you implying every thing's okay ?? I don't know if the tens of MILLIONS of unemployed, and the tens of MILLIONS of underemployed, and the tens of MILLIONS who've had their equity, savings and retirement wiped out, and the tens of MILLIONS who are upset that a big, bloated, non-responsive government is deficit spending them, their children and their grandchildren into oblivion, would agree with you.

Honest Abe says

“Yet America keeps on keeping on”. Are you implying every thing’s okay ?? I don’t know if the tens of MILLIONS of unemployed, and the tens of MILLIONS of underemployed, and the tens of MILLIONS who’ve had their equity, savings and retirement wiped out, and the tens of MILLIONS who are upset that a big, bloated, non-responsive government is deficit spending them, their children and their grandchildren into oblivion, would agree with you.

So are you implying that it's the government's responsibility to make sure everything is OK for everybody? That sounds awfully socialist to me. Are you afraid of freedom?