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39429   Shaman   2013 Nov 12, 2:20am  

The monthly chart clearly shows gold speculation fueled by the threat of government default.

39430   upisdown   2013 Nov 12, 2:22am  

Quigley says

The monthly chart clearly shows gold speculation fueled by the threat of
government default.

Ya think???

And maybe some hype by selfish individuals.

39431   FortWayne   2013 Nov 12, 6:18am  

Plans usually term at the end of the year. Are they going to let people grandfather into old plans forever?

39432   ttsmyf   2013 Nov 12, 6:52am  

WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!

Say hey! This was in the Wall Street Journal on March 30, 1999. Note "... how much it will buy."

Holy cow/interesting/compelling ...!

And where is it up to date??? Right here ... see the first chart shown in this thread.
Recent Dow day is Tuesday, November 12, 2013 __ Level is 100.5

WOW! It is hideous that this is hidden! Is there any such "Homes, Inflation Adjusted"? Yes! This was in the New York Times on August 27, 2006:

And up to date (by me) is here:
http://patrick.net/?p=1219038&c=999083#comment-999083

WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!

And http://patrick.net/?p=1230886

39433   Automan Empire   2013 Nov 12, 8:19am  

What should Obama do, MANDATE that the insurers issue policies and dictate their terms?

Because, then he actually WOULD be a dictator. Funny the way Republicans feel free to fault Obama for failing to do this, when they've spent over 5 years hating him for being a socialist dictator who shoved Obamacare down America's throat.

39434   anonymous   2013 Nov 12, 8:46am  

Automan Empire says

What should Obama do, MANDATE that the insurers issue policies and dictate their terms?

Because, then he actually WOULD be a dictator. Funny the way Republicans feel free to fault Obama for failing to do this, when they've spent over 5 years hating him for being a socialist dictator who shoved Obamacare down America's throat.

Once he forces everyone to participate, all rules go out the window. Why do you hate Fascism?

39435   anonymous   2013 Nov 12, 9:34am  

Automan Empire says

What should Obama do, MANDATE that the insurers issue policies and dictate their terms?

No, I think Republicans would just want Obama to remove the MANDATED minimum requirement for the bronze, silver and gold plans, and then insurance companies would naturally offer whatever they were offering before.

39436   thomaswong.1986   2013 Nov 12, 10:18am  

upisdown says

The Weekly 'Standard'. LOL

the liberals are silent on the matter...

39437   Bigsby   2013 Nov 12, 10:21am  

bgamall4 says

Bigsby says

I think you'll find that British savers (and consequently the average tax payer) were the ones swindled by Icelandic banks, you sad conspiracy nut.

You pathetic cockroach, the British had risk. They took the risk. What do you want, risk free? When you invest understand the risk. Trouble is the financial order is tied to derivatives so they refuse to allow risk and countries that should default cannot. You are pathetic.

The bloody article you link to talks about Icelandic banks peddling unrealistic interest rates to UK savers. The Icelandic government initially said that they'd meet the financial obligations of their banks and then reneged on that, leaving UK tax payers to foot the bill, and yet your headline says that Gordon Brown betrayed Iceland. FFS, you are one stupid so-and-so.

39438   bdrasin   2013 Nov 12, 10:33am  

How did Iceland save Great Britain? IIRC Iceland was occupied by the Brits and later the US during the war...

39439   thomaswong.1986   2013 Nov 12, 11:55am  

Call it Crazy says

“There’s no way we can sugarcoat it anymore, and I don’t say that as a political shot at anyone.”

might as well skip the sugar and go straight to meth and crack...

39440   elliemae   2013 Nov 12, 12:26pm  

thunderlips11 says

I think guys who bang dolls are still a few steps above Bronies and Furries.

Those guys are messed up.

I learn something new every day, now I know what a "bronie" is. Ewww!

39441   upisdown   2013 Nov 12, 12:29pm  

Yaaaawwwwnnnn, just how many more of these are you going to post this week?

I take it that you know exactly how annoying that you are and how little attention is paid to you, otherwise you'd find a more effective way to be obnoxious by now.

39442   anonymous   2013 Nov 12, 12:52pm  

Vicente says

What's with all the masculine features?

I can hear the one on the right now,,,"do I look fat?"

39443   ttsmyf   2013 Nov 13, 6:29am  

WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!

Say hey! This was in the Wall Street Journal on March 30, 1999. Note "... how much it will buy."

Holy cow/interesting/compelling ...!

And where is it up to date??? Right here ... see the first chart shown in this thread.
Recent Dow day is Wednesday, November 13, 2013 __ Level is 100.9

WOW! It is hideous that this is hidden! Is there any such "Homes, Inflation Adjusted"? Yes! This was in the New York Times on August 27, 2006:

And up to date (by me) is here:
http://patrick.net/?p=1219038&c=999083#comment-999083

WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!

And http://patrick.net/?p=1230886

39444   mmmarvel   2013 Nov 13, 9:51am  

Let's see, she could ... no not for that. Well, maybe ... no, ew, no never no way. Okay then she could, no she couldn't, she wouldn't and I wouldn't want her to. So there you go, no way, no how, never, ever, ever, ever, no matter what she did or didn't do - she won't get my vote.

39445   Blurtman   2013 Nov 13, 10:29am  

The populace has voted. Death! Death! Death!

39446   HydroCabron   2013 Nov 13, 10:49am  

Fuck bitch piss cunt spooge cock-puking ass fuck shitter!

That is: No.

39447   lostand confused   2013 Nov 13, 12:09pm  

As long as she promises not to go nude-she has my vote.

39448   Ceffer   2013 Nov 13, 12:15pm  

She has my vote.

It's about time we had a cabinet consisting of sadistic power lesbians, they will kick the world's ass!

It would help if she would put the video of her caning Bill after the Monica scandal with a bamboo rod on you tube.

39449   FortWayne   2013 Nov 13, 12:27pm  

If she can prove that she will be more competent and less liberal than GOP candidate.

39450   anonymous   2013 Nov 13, 1:25pm  

MSNBC...LMAO

39451   thomaswong.1986   2013 Nov 13, 2:55pm  

too bad they didnt break out Chris Mattews on the poll..

39452   thomaswong.1986   2013 Nov 13, 2:57pm  

egads101 says

19% of this country is bat shit stupid right wingers, who would say they trust Fox news, that 2+2 = 5, then Obama claiming 2+2=4.

Roberto.. do you too get that "Tingle" when you see Obama...

39453   thomaswong.1986   2013 Nov 13, 3:01pm  

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Comptroller says

PatNet Asks: How Could Hillary Clinton Get Your Vote for President?

two women enter.. one woman leaves....
.
i say its Thunderdome with Palin...Clinton hasnt got a chance...
.

39454   bob2356   2013 Nov 13, 8:41pm  

Homeboy says

If it's revenue neutral, it is NOT a "fiscal shit storm". There is no "rest of the story". If you think I was claiming that there is no cost, you didn't read what I wrote. OF COURSE subsidies cost money. Duh. But they are PAID for, according to the CBO analysis. Engage your brain a bit before you throw out false charges of "dishonesty".

Oh bullshit. You posted the half the cbo information saying repealing the aca would increase the federal budget deficit. The implication is clear, that aca is somehow saving money therefore reducing the budget deficit. That's dishonest in any book.

What's with your obsession with twisting facts to make the aca look better than it is? Why won't you face up to the reality that the aca doesn't lower the cost of health care one cent. It only changes who pays. I will completely agree with you that aca will be a success if shuffling payers is your only criteria.

God it's hard to see the forest with all the fucking trees in the way.

39455   anonymous   2013 Nov 13, 9:48pm  

Dan8267 says

lostand confused says

The only thing he did is make Romneycare go nationwide. ... That he is lying hypocrite is not in question. But the opposition is a bunch of loons who try and shut down the govt and make us default on our debt-something we will never be able to recover from. Sigh-is it too much to ask for a politician who cares a little bit about the country?

Well said. In the long run, Obama isn't going to be remembered as the first black president, but rather as a terrible president. Unfortunately, we're stuck with hoping for an alternative in the Democratic Party, because the Republican Party isn't going to produce a nominee that isn't god-awful.

He will be remembered as the shittiest door to door used insurance snake oil salesman, the world has ever known

39456   upisdown   2013 Nov 13, 9:48pm  

thomaswong.1986 says

the liberals are silent on the matter...

My point flew over your head like a 747.

Notice how the magazine name has to imply that they are somehow the norm, or 'Standard'?

It reminds me of some other propaganda outlet that calims that it is 'Fair and Balanced'.

39457   Dan8267   2013 Nov 13, 11:36pm  

Call it Crazy says

Poll: More People Trust Fox News For Information

In related news...
Poll: Median American becoming stupider as smart-dumb gap continues to increase

39458   Tenpoundbass   2013 Nov 13, 11:39pm  

Dan8267 says

stupider

Is that even a word that a person speaking on this topic should even be using?

39459   MisdemeanorRebel   2013 Nov 14, 12:11am  

Don't besmirch psychology. Occasionally, psychologists make correct diagnosis and help their patients, unlike another social "science" I know of.

39460   everything   2013 Nov 14, 12:33am  

That's good, I think that's the way TPTB, taxers, n bankers would want it.
This is a consumer driven economy, they are consuming, or being consumed, makes no difference to the financial systems.

39461   smaulgld   2013 Nov 14, 12:34am  

And why home prices cant rise

No matter how much QE or low rates

39462   RWSGFY   2013 Nov 14, 2:20am  

Fucking Teatard.

39463   Tenpoundbass   2013 Nov 14, 3:19am  

He sounded like a typical 16 year old making excuses.
He ranted on Obamacare and shifted fault to everything but the lack of tought or planning that went into Obamacare, nor did he address that nobody even read the bill when it was passed.
He sugar coated the 100,000's of people that registered at the site, and did not buy coverage, claiming they were unable to choose a plan. But then in conclusion he wrapped up by saying people can browse plans just fine, that it has worked all along. So how does that work?

People aren't buying insurance through the exchange because 80% of the people who don't qualify for subsidies can't afford the premiums. And even those with subsidies still wont be able to cover their portion of the premium.

For a family working at McDonald's who for what ever reason don't qualify for Welfarecare, most likely wont be able to afford even a reduced $80 a month premium.

Shit you can't even buy two sacks of groceries for $80 these days.

The Democrats and Obama are so far out of touch with reality of the economy and plight of the working families they have become fairy tale characters more than Civil servants and politicians.

Obamacare was only created to pluck the pigeons, and America knows it.

39464   Homeboy   2013 Nov 14, 4:25am  

Bill Clinton is a really smart guy, but I don't think he thought this one through. The way the system worked before is that you could get these catastrophic insurance policies, but then if you got a serious illness, you could end up bankrupt. I believe some of them didn't even cover hospitalization. The thing was, if you got sick, you couldn't then say, "Oh, by the way, I want to sign up for the good insurance that actually covers my illness", because the insurance company would simply say, "Pre-existing condition. Fuck you." So you would be SOL.

But NOW, insurance companies are legally barred from saying "fuck you". They HAVE to sell you an insurance policy, and they can't ask you if you have a pre-existing condition.

Well, you're only healthy until you're not, if you know what I mean. So would we allow the "I'm healthy right now at this moment" crowd to buy insurance policies that don't cover anything for pennies, and then when they get sick, suddenly sign up for the good policy that covers everything? O.K., who's gonna pay for that? How long do you think the system will remain solvent if everyone is on the $40/month bare bones plan and then just switches to the good plan after they get sick? As it is, the "young invincibles" will pay MUCH less than older people. That's not good enough for them? They want to pay nothing at all?

39465   RWSGFY   2013 Nov 14, 4:56am  

WTF? How can he change his mind? It's the LAW, remember?

39466   ttsmyf   2013 Nov 14, 6:14am  

WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!

Say hey! This was in the Wall Street Journal on March 30, 1999. Note "... how much it will buy."

Holy cow/interesting/compelling ...!

And where is it up to date??? Right here ... see the first chart shown in this thread.
Recent Dow day is Thursday, November 14, 2013 __ Level is 101.3

WOW! It is hideous that this is hidden! Is there any such "Homes, Inflation Adjusted"? Yes! This was in the New York Times on August 27, 2006:

And up to date (by me) is here:
http://patrick.net/?p=1219038&c=999083#comment-999083

WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!

And http://patrick.net/?p=1230886

39467   New Renter   2013 Nov 14, 8:38am  

Given the fecal/oral route preferred by both, the comparison is valid.

39468   Dan8267   2013 Nov 14, 9:08am  

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Comptroller says

Should the NAR Be Classified as a Disease Like Cholera?

No. It's a terrorist group!

I hear all real estate agencies are trained in Benghazi!

And as a terrorist group, rather than a disease, we can use drone strikes on the NAR!

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