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zzyzzx says

CaptainShuddup says

Then make it... Oh I don't know... affordable perhaps?

Truth in advertising laws should apply here. It should be named the Unaffordable Mandatory Care Act

Slight tweak to that name: Unafordable Mandatory Insurance Act.
Health care is extra, and will require paying a large deductible.

edvard2 says

This is a public announcement: Obama won the election and will be in office for 3 more years. That is all...

How would you feel about someone posting the same thing about Bush W., circa 2005? Not a strong argument buddy.

Call it Crazy says

Spamming?? That's funny... I haven't even come close to the HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS of posts you've made in your cheerleading of O'care!!!

Did I post TWO DIFFERENT THREADS on the SAME DAY about the EXACT SAME TOPIC? No, I did not. Did you? Yes, you did.

I know you don't like it when I dispel the right-wing myths about ACA, and you like to wrongly call it "cheerleading", but your mistaken characterization does not make it spamming.

Call it Crazy says

I was just reminding all the readers here that they have one more day to sign up. There were over 13,000 readers today here...

Ha ha - bullshit.

Call it Crazy says

YOU did sign up for your cost saving plan already, didn't you??

Of course I did.

Call it Crazy says

I believe that was his DEMOCRAT whiners he gave in to...

Not even. Democrats for the most part supported the law as written. The repukes were the ones crying, "Waaah! He said I could keep my shitty insurance!"

Call it Crazy says

Here's her complete comment, does it change much for you??

“But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it – away from the fog of the controversy.”

Here's mine from above:

Call it Crazy says

"Have to pass the bill to know what is in it"

Just wondering, do both comments have different meanings, or would a second grader understand how similar they are??

If you really believe those two mean the same thing, then why did you use the version that omits the word "you", and crops off the entire end of the sentence?

The meaning of that statement was that she wanted the SENATE to pass their version, so that the bill could be discussed without all the fake bullshit about death panels and other nonsense. She wasn't suggesting that the bill should be rammed though before she or anyone else read it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/pelosi-defends-her-infamous-health-care-remark/2012/06/20/gJQAqch6qV_blog.html

But then you already knew that, because we've told you that over and over on this forum.

Call it Crazy says

I believe they were TWO different topics....

I can't help it that your boy makes 2 unconstitutional, unilateral changes to his signature law in ONE day!!!

Dude, you must be high.

Thread number one: "Individuals whose health plans were canceled will now automatically qualify for a "hardship exemption" from the mandate. If they can't or don't sign up for a new plan, they don't have to pay the tax."

http://patrick.net/?p=1235652

Thread number two: "Americans whose health plans are being canceled because their coverage doesn’t meet Obamacare rules will be exempt from the mandate that they carry insurance, under a change announced by the Obama administration. "

http://patrick.net/?p=1235615

How the fuck is that two different topics?

Do you realize people who believe in too many conspiracy theories are mentally ill? Get some help.
Just do a google search if you don't believe me.

bgamall4 says

It is amazing, but if you draw a straight link from Emilie's elbow to where the line of her arm should intersect her body, it should intersect at the top of her right EAR. The picture is a crude phony.

It's not that her arm is crooked, but it's also that her right arm is way too damn long. This photo is poorly redone...she has a bad case of ape arm.

is this a joke?

Call it Crazy says

It takes TWO years for her to recognize her brain dead, fucked up statement??? Is she as slow as you are??

Really???

"Brain dead" is starting two threads on the exact same topic, and not even realizing it, you dumb shit.

Call it Crazy says

Homeboy says

Call it Crazy says

I believe that was his DEMOCRAT whiners he gave in to...

Not even. Democrats for the most part supported the law as written. The repukes were the ones crying, "Waaah!

Sorry it was your Dems...

Go back to my link and read the WSJ article:

http://patrick.net/?p=1235652

I DID read your article, stupid. Apparently you didn't, though. It says THIS:

The White House argued at the Supreme Court that the insurance-purchase mandate was not only constitutional but essential to the law's success, while refusing REPUBLICAN demands to delay or repeal it.

Q: Who was demanding the individual mandate be repealed?
A: The REPUBLICANS.

Yes, the democrats gave in, TO THE REPUBLICAN WHINERS.

waiting_for_the_fall says

is this a joke?

It's not a joke. The OP is a sick, heartless bastard.

I tell you what Bgamall, as you're such a supporter of research, why don't you travel to Sandy Hook and interview the inhabitants? You may as well start with the families of those who lost children. You can knock on their doors and ask them where they hid their kids. You can report back to us with your findings. I'll reimburse your travel expenses.

And so the next phase begins.

Am I the only one who noticed that the Sandy Hook footage shot at night features no stars anywhere in the sky?

(i researched this.)

bgamall4 says

Strategist says

Do you realize people who believe in too many conspiracy theories are mentally ill? Get some help.

Just do a google search if you don't believe me.

Do you realize that you are a damn fool? Look it up.

What's next? Space aliens kidnapped you and had sex with you?

Meccos says

wow, where are you looking? sucks to be buying right now. Just doesnt seem like a good environment to be buying when you are in bidding wars... hard to beat 1.2M CASH...

Pasadena and Altadena mostly. The schools aren't too great, but we can't compete with the asian buyers in South Pasadena and San Marino. A shack on a tiny lot goes for 1.2 easy over there. Even where we're looking, these prices are for fixers. It'll take 250K to make them the way you want.

Yes, it's a really hard, because there is nothing for sale. (We're looking for at least a 1/4 acre, so already that's rare).

I watched prices barely budge down about 10-15% during the crash. San Marino was 5%. They just stayed there as interest rates came down, and then people were selling for just over the bubble price they payed in 2005-2006. If that fiasco didn't make housing budge, I doubt anything in the near future is going to do it.

bgamall4 says

rooemoore says

waiting_for_the_fall says

is this a joke?

It's not a joke. The OP is a sick, heartless bastard.

You are demented. The imaginary line of this girl's arm should pass through the left eye of her sister, not the right eye! No one is deformed like that. The picture is a FAKE.

You are an idiot.

So what if it was Photoshopped? That proves nothing. I have Photoshopped dozens of my kids photos over the years. (One year for a Christmas card I copied the smile from one kid to one who was frowning.)

The photo you are showing could have been a composite of two photos in order to have all three girls looking cute. I have done this many, many times. It proves nothing. The arm may be off, but there is an arm touching a shirt that matches the arm of the girl in the background. A Photoshop expert may be able to pull that off but not miss the error you are highlighting.

This thread proves you are a HEARTLESS fool.

bgamall4 says

Bigsby says

Perhaps you'd care to explain to me how any sort of error by a news agency constitutes proof of your ridiculous claims.

It was supposed to be the police storming the school. But it was a different school. There is no proof of the police storming the school where the attacks are alleged to take place. That is a proof. If they can't provide proof it didn't happen.

Why do you quote a sentence from a post that you then delete?

This was my full comment if it helps:

I don't know what you think that demonstrates. Perhaps you'd care to explain to me how any sort of error by a news agency constitutes proof of your ridiculous claims. You should be asking yourself the context of that footage. When was it filmed? Was it occurring at the same time as the events at Sandy Hook? Is it strange that the police might be checking other nearby schools? What do you think it was like in the newsroom at the time of these live events unfolding? Why is a simple editorial error of this type such an issue to you when there are tens of thousands of hours of actual footage of the event? Why does the former outweigh the latter in the mind of a conspiracist? And on and on it goes.

I note that you didn't address any of my questions.

nw888 says

homaswong.1986 says

you have any proof of these other bidders... or are they fake to pump up prices ?

I've seen the houses sell for more than we bid roughly 30 days later. I can only assume that it is true. If there were no other bidders, we surely would have gotten the houses, since we're offering over asking for the most part.

Case in point: Last week we offered $1.1 million on a home, when asking was $975K (they purposely underpriced it). The highest bidder offered just under $1.2 million, cash, no contingencies.

and yet all the people who overbid and didnt win told there were other highe offers only to see the homes not sold... what happened !

come on... do you really expect REA to be that honest considering they can squeeze you for another $50K-100K...

lets get rid of the commission structure and see how far "other bids" last....

back in 1969-1970 they banned similar commissions from Stock Market transactions.

bgamall4 says

the fact that Robbie Parker is a lying actor, who had no concern that his child was dead.

Like I said, I'll reimburse any expenses for your trip to Sandy Hook. You can ask him why he had no concern. Take a video camera along if you don't mind.

Do not forget us "Baby Boomers" who pay cash as we want to live as rent free as possible. We buy small 3br/3baths because we want to be able to sell or rent them if necessary, but intend to live in them as long as we can.

Rents are rising and we retiring Baby Boomers are putting down roots, often away from the high priced areas but within areas with services.

bgamall4 says

How Wall Streets bad behavior hurts Main Street

This 'headline' post after this headline post below by the same person on the main page:

Emilie's Cockeyed Arm Cannot Go Unchallenged Must See!

F-n prophetic, and ironic.

bgamall4 says

upisdown
says

That's the hilarious part that bgamall won't admit, is that the
zionist/Israel-only lobby is very effective without having to resort to
inefficient and insane actions to fulfill their agendas.

Again that is not what they do. They do false flags, terrorism, and scare
people to get their way. That is how they operate. The lobby didn't get war in
the middle east until the neocons instituted 9/11. Wake up buddy.

Really? Fear and loathing of AIPAC by up-and-coming politicians wanting campaign money and/or support or not backing their opponet is proof of their power, along with the known and traceable campaign contributions.

If you REALLY were an anti-zionist like you claim, you would be harping about the real shit that's done to support and further agendas instead of the fantasy bullshit you inundate everybody with here. Why go hypothetical when you have real proof?

bgamall4 says

Also, RIP Victoria Soto joined Facebook December 10, 2012.

You should get in touch with Fox News. Apparently they knew about it 30 years in advance:

http://twitpic.com/bw0x6q

By the way, I already explained the repurposing of a facebook page with the date remaining the same as the initial set up time. You know that is how such a date arises with a later event and yet you are still trying to pass this off as some kind of proof. It isn't. More importantly, you know it isn't, so what are you trying to do?

Bigsby says

You should get in touch with Fox News. Apparently they knew about it 30 years in advance:

http://twitpic.com/bw0x6q

You did some good research there!

Of course the neocon Zionists mapped this all out well in advance.

bgamall4 says

Bigsby says

I tell you what Bgamall, as you're such a supporter of research, why don't you travel to Sandy Hook and interview the inhabitants?

They never saw 600 kids dispersed from the building. So what happened to them. 600 kids is as big as a small high school. Yet no one left en masse from the school.

Why don't you describe to everyone here how the elementary school is approached? There also isn't any helicopter footage of the evacuation either, is there? I bet you think that is 'proof' of a hoax.

Oh, and when you visit Sandy Hook to do your research, perhaps you'd like to also drop in on these first responders and ask them why they participated in this supposed hoax.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/29/nyregion/horrors-of-newtown-shooting-scene-are-slow-to-fade.html?_r=0

Or as you will probably say they are crisis actors, then please supply the appropriate proof for such an assertion. Their names are clearly stated in the article.

I'd take Bigsby up on this.
Your pseudo ramblings will have finally paid off with an all expenses paid vacation to the great NorthEast!

Bigsby says

bgamall4 says

the fact that Robbie Parker is a lying actor, who had no concern that his child was dead.

Like I said, I'll reimburse any expenses for your trip to Sandy Hook. You can ask him why he had no concern. Take a video camera along if you don't mind.

SoftShell says

I'd take Bigsby up on this.

Your pseudo ramblings will have finally paid off with an all expenses paid vacation to the great NorthEast!

Bigsby says

bgamall4 says

the fact that Robbie Parker is a lying actor, who had no concern that his child was dead.

Like I said, I'll reimburse any expenses for your trip to Sandy Hook. You can ask him why he had no concern. Take a video camera along if you don't mind.

Yep, but he actually needs to go and visit these people and make the same arguments to them that he makes on here. I reckon those first responders would be a good starting point. I very much look forward to seeing the video of those encounters.

thomaswong.1986 says

and yet all the people who overbid and didnt win told there were other highe offers only to see the homes not sold... what happened !

Yes, one would assume if yours was a high offer, you would get the house. I have no idea what happened in those situations.

thomaswong.1986 says

come on... do you really expect REA to be that honest considering they can squeeze you for another $50K-100K...

I understand that there is a bit of a conflict of interest. REA hopefully are considering that you may be a seller in a few years, or recommend them to others, so doing shady things wouldn't be in their best interest in the long run. I'm sure there are both kinds out there.

thomaswong.1986 says

lets get rid of the commission structure and see how far "other bids" last....

We were using Redfin for awhile, because those agents just get a flat fee. They're helpful, but honestly, they don't jump on things when you ask them too. The REA I use now wants to make that commission. She moves very fast and within a couple of hours has all the info on a home, the seller's situation, etc. etc.

I find the commission thing to be helpful, because the REA is hungrier than the non-commissioned people.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

Yams! People want to know about sales of Yam seeds.

Now,I know you've lost it. ROFL

Gotta keep those dollars close at hand for the January 1st Obamacare surprise.

I mean it hasn't even kicked in yet, and according to the Okeydoke Libs this still isn't Obamacare YET. Most people keep hearing that faint Nancy Pelosi voice saying...

"Oh just wait! You aint seen Shit yet..."

The Pawnshops are going to full of the Ghost of the Christmas last month.

CaptainShuddup says

Gotta keep those dollars close at hand for the January 1st Obamacare surprise.

I mean it hasn't even kicked in yet, and according to the Okeydoke Libs this still isn't Obamacare YET. Most people keep hearing that faint Nancy Pelosi voice saying...

"Oh just wait! You aint seen Shit yet..."

The Pawnshops are going to full of the Ghost of the Christmas last month.

The "protestors" could refuse to buy insurance, refuse to pay the penalty (and it has not been figured out how it will be collected) and then claim that they are "conscientious objectors" in court. Perhaps someone on this board will conduct a participant observation study?

dublin hillz says

(and it has not been figured out how it will be collected)

It's called the IRS, meet the new Medical billing office.

Call it Crazy says

Retail traffic plummeted 21 percent last week, and in-store sales decreased
3.1 percent from the year before, dashing retailers' hopes that the final
stretch before Christmas would offset soft sales numbers earlier in the holiday
shopping season.

The disappointing numbers, released by ShopperTrak on Monday, are "kind of
staggering," said the research firm's founder, Bill Martin, who last week voiced
optimism that retailers would see a noticeable spike in traffic and sales the
week of Dec. 16-22 after two consecutive weeks of decreases in both.

Good - the entire christmas season has basically been created by the 1% capitalists to get the masses to part with their hard earned money.

Stopped by my local Honda dealer to "look around." They are desperate to sell cars. 2013, 2014 models, anything! Sales guy offered me special financing. I told him I pay cash.

Think I'll stick with my current ride. It's paid for and runs great, even with 180K miles on the odometer.

Homeboy, how can you defend the Obamacare Turd Pie? Obama had to lie to the public, had to twist arms to get it passed (barely), refused to delay the individual mandate, but gave a free pass/extension to businesses. TONS of exemptions for friends/bundlers, etc. Each month passes and more and more of Americans who liked/wanted their 'shitty' plans (your words, not mine) can't keep them, because Obamacare's cryptic requirements now deem them illegal. Republicans saw this shitstorm years in advance, and tried to repeal or delay. And all during this time, you and the O-bots continued to drink the Kool-Aid while insulting those on pat.net who said, 'yeah, I have a big problem w/ Obamacare'.

Well, the curtain has been raised and now all can see that Obamacare was ill-conceived, poorly written, poorly executed, and now (w/o Senate approval mind you), has been self-delayed. How can you defend a house that has already burned down? The MSM press who's in the bag for the Dems, will never really tell the tale of millions who lost their insurance, who can't even buy a slice of Obama's shit pie, because the website is fuckin' broke. But we'll know in Nov '14 what America thinks of Obama and his 'care'....... HE OWNS THIS MESS.

No jobs,No consumers.
Could someone explain this to me in layman's terms.

Wait! I think I figured it out.
The unemployed,temporary & 29 hr/week,minimum wage with food stamp assisted jobs doesn't allow some to have any discretionary funds to buy crap.

ooooh how conservatives are soooo upset that Obamacare is here to stay. All they can do is ramble on and one about an issue they lost and can't get over.

jvolstad says

Stopped by my local Honda dealer to "look around." They are desperate to sell cars. 2013, 2014 models, anything! Sales guy offered me special financing. I told him I pay cash.

Think I'll stick with my current ride. It's paid for and runs great, even with 180K miles on the odometer.

A friend sold a car franchise so I asked him about all the sales pitches. Here are a few of his responses.

When one walks onto the lot,we try to to get them to pay a maximum price. I had that one in my hard drive.lol

If your trade-in is in good shape,we try to get it for nothing.We will make money.

We never mention increased insurance premiums.

We never mention increased Ad valorem.

We never mention sales tax.

We never mention depreciation.

We never mention the total cost of financing.

We hard sell our low rate financing plan & low monthly payment.

And then he ask me, Do you want to buy a car? I'll make you a deal!

Not fair and square...
With no safeguards in place for voter identification, the Chad once again neutered the US electoral process..

edvard2 says

This is a public announcement: Obama won the election and will be in office for 3 more years. That is all...

So you know that health insurance policy you had and liked and could afford? Yah that's been cancelled, but tell you what, we WON'T tax the snot out of you as well! So you can keep your no health insurance!