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46102   Paralithodes   2014 May 7, 11:52pm  

tatupu70 says

Wow--so you can't even tell me which regulation you were referencing? That's pretty weak.

Sure I could have told you... But why bother? We both know you didn't ask out of sincerity and instead asked out of diversion and a means to criticize. Otherwise you could have let it go after Bob provided the info and I responded. As far as it being "weak." No matter... Is there ever anything you provide as evidence for your own positions, that is stronger? I think we both know the answer to that one!

tatupu70 says

I challenge you to show me where I made that "very specific" assertion. Because I would never have said that new regulation does not impact small business. Of course some of it does--much is exempted for small business--but certainly not all.

You specifically asserted that in general there was literally LESS regulation today than decades ago. You made a blanket claim very similar to above regarding "much is exempted for small business" but then as now, provide ZERO evidence for your positions.

Sure, you agree that some regulation impacts small business and "not all" is exempt. So we disagree only to the matter of the degree on a scale. If that's the case, what's your issue: that I say it's "significant" and you disagree and think it's not significant? OK, for once, provide some type of evidence or logical explanation, based on the real world, for why you think it's not. Time for you to actually provide some info of value beyond your simple (and often obviously inexperienced) opinion.

46103   bob2356   2014 May 8, 12:19am  

Paralithodes says

So it is a "one time waiver." And yes, I am aware that the fees are reduced. Now tell us, if GE Medical pays 100% of the fee, and a $100K business pays 38% of the fee, who proportionately pays much more or less as a % of their business revenue, the major large business or the small business?

You are being disingenuous. There are no 100k medical device makers or anywhere even close. I doubt there are very many if any less than 10 million dollar medical device makers. A 90k fee isn't holding anyone back from entering the field.

. Paralithodes says

Are you, like control point, trying to shift the conversation away from what it is really about: Impact of regulation on small business?

Your point is big corporations use taxes and regulations to restrict competition. Very true. My point is you picked a very bad example where there is a legitimate reason for the fees. Industry should pay for fees for government services needed in order conduct their business. Surely you are not going to say that medical devices should be self regulated and will be safe because of the high levels of civic responsiblity of medical device makers?

Increasing compliance costs affect small business more than large corporations, as do increasing rents, labor costs, material costs, transportation costs, etc. etc etc.. Small business are more nimble and are free from large amounts of organizational overhead. It's all part of the game. Large business have used government to stifle competition since the dawn of time. You haven't discovered anything new here.

Business formation fell off a cliff in the 1930's, yet there wasn't any huge amount of new regulations holding it back. I don't think a lack of business formation in a poor economy is some kind of surprise, except to the washington post.

46104   HydroCabron   2014 May 8, 12:44am  

Wouldn't another tax cut promote small business growth?

46105   HydroCabron   2014 May 8, 12:50am  

Everybody I talk to agrees that it's the president's job to steer the economy.

But we're not socialists.

46106   Vicente   2014 May 8, 12:59am  

Yeah everyone wants to drive on the roads, nobody wants to pay for them. Same person will gladly bitch about potholes and "why didn't they build another bypass so I can get to Walmart faster!!!"

Gas taxes are something close to half of the funding for roads. If you cut that stream drastically by driving hybrids or electrics, then you'll need to choose between either less roads kept open & maintained, or some other way to fund it.

46107   lostand confused   2014 May 8, 1:10am  

Vicente says

Gas taxes are something close to half of the funding for roads. If you cut that stream drastically by driving hybrids or electrics, then you'll need to choose between either less roads kept open & maintained, or some other way to fund it.

Meanwhile CA is the welfare capital of America. Why not cut payments to bums and pay for roads??

46108   zzyzzx   2014 May 8, 1:21am  

Vicente says

Gas taxes are something close to half of the funding for roads.

They would fund more than half if they would do away with requirements for union labor.

46109   Shaman   2014 May 8, 1:22am  

Currently the gas tax is at an astronomical value of $.59/gallon. My wife and I are small range drivers, about 12k each with our vehicles, avg between us of 20mpg. So that's 24,000/20=1200 gallons, at $0.59 is $708 dollars in gas tax we pay each year.
If we switch to a mileage tax, at $0.05/mile, that's $1200 in tax.
If this is a "replacement" tax, why is it almost double the already high gas tax?

Two commuter families are totally hosed, figure twice that in tax for $2400/year.
All this to cover up the fact that Sacramento raids road funds every time their liberal budget doesn't match incoming tax money. That's why our roads are shitty and the transportation is always underfunded.

46110   Strategist   2014 May 8, 1:27am  

Dear Governor Brown,
You said we need to reduce pollution, reduce the trade deficit, reduce asthma and respiratory illnesses due to pollution, and save the environment. You said I should buy a Prius, so I did.
Now you say I should get charged by the mile because the Prius is not consuming enough gas. Are you now saying I should not have got my Prius?
Thanks
Citizen

46111   Shaman   2014 May 8, 1:39am  

"It's the economy, stupid!"
- Some random democrat

46112   HydroCabron   2014 May 8, 1:47am  

Quigley says

"It's the economy, stupid!"

- Some random democrat

Not denying it.

That's what's interesting: every news anchor, everyone I work with, everyone in my family, all my friends would deny they're socialists (2-3 exceptions), but all believe the president is the captain of the ship who manages the economy. That is, there is an absolute embrace of the principle that the head of state is there to guide the economy - it's embedded to near-lizard-brain depth.

46113   Automan Empire   2014 May 8, 1:51am  

SoftShell says

When a small business owner is told "you didn't build that", they tend to fall
into an "Ok, I don't get credit for building the business, fuck you I don't give
a fuck anymore" state, and their business fails.

Really? Anyone with this kind of mindset doesn't have the mettle to be a business owner, or even much of an employee. It sounds like a rich man's wife, whining about running her heavily-subsidized-by-hubby hobby business.

46114   Shaman   2014 May 8, 1:52am  

The POTUS may or may not be the economic captain, but he certainly can be the rock upon which all economic legislation runs aground. If Obama doesn't like something like, say, the pipeline from Montana to Texas, it's going to make that almost impossible to get done. Obama has a proven record of being the spanner in the works of economic recovery, vetoing legislation that would add good jobs and money.

46115   Peter P   2014 May 8, 1:54am  

Don't call it a tax. All roads should be toll roads.

Cyclists and pedestrians should be charged a fee to use the streets too.

46116   zzyzzx   2014 May 8, 1:56am  

Peter P says

Don't call it a tax. All roads should be toll roads.

Cyclists and pedestrians should be charged a fee to use the streets too.

Using your reasoning parents should be paying much higher taxes to support all the tax dollars spent on their kids.

46117   Y   2014 May 8, 1:57am  

Sarcasm.
Time to mount your low horse....

Automan Empire says

SoftShell says

When a small business owner is told "you didn't build that", they tend to fall

into an "Ok, I don't get credit for building the business, fuck you I don't give

a fuck anymore" state, and their business fails.

Really? Anyone with this kind of mindset doesn't have the mettle to be a business owner, or even much of an employee. It sounds like a rich man's wife, whining about running her heavily-subsidized-by-hubby hobby business.

46118   Peter P   2014 May 8, 1:59am  

zzyzzx says

Peter P says

Don't call it a tax. All roads should be toll roads.

Cyclists and pedestrians should be charged a fee to use the streets too.

Using your reasoning parents should be paying much higher taxes to support all the tax dollars spent on their kids.

Absolutely.

46119   dublin hillz   2014 May 8, 2:02am  

Strategist says

Dear Governor Brown,
You said we need to reduce pollution, reduce the trade deficit, reduce asthma and respiratory illnesses due to pollution, and save the environment. You said I should buy a Prius, so I did.
Now you say I should get charged by the mile because the Prius is not consuming enough gas. Are you now saying I should not have got my Prius?
Thanks
Citizen

If the terminator were to have remained governor everyone would get a complimentary hummer and gas tax receipts would not be an issue...

46120   Strategist   2014 May 8, 2:09am  

Call it Crazy says

Strategist says

Dear Governor Brown,

You said we need to reduce pollution, reduce the trade deficit, reduce asthma and respiratory illnesses due to pollution, and save the environment. You said I should buy a Prius, so I did.

Now you say I should get charged by the mile because the Prius is not consuming enough gas. Are you now saying I should not have got my Prius?

Thanks

Citizen

Ha Ha Ha.... How do you like your Prius NOW while living in paradise (CA)??

It's for sale.

46121   FortWayne   2014 May 8, 2:16am  

I already pay outrageous taxes for just about everything, income tax, sales tax, property tax, all other miscellaneous taxes when buying sertain items.

And they want more taxes? Over my dead body!

46122   bob2356   2014 May 8, 2:21am  

Call it Crazy says

I think he might have been referring to this Medical Device Excise Tax as part of the ACA:

Already discussed.

46123   Strategist   2014 May 8, 2:23am  

Call it Crazy says

FortWayne says

And they want more taxes? Over my dead body!

They might tax that too....

They already do. They call it the Death Tax.

46124   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2014 May 8, 2:24am  

Lol you idiots voted these people into office, not me.

46125   Strategist   2014 May 8, 2:25am  

Strategist says

Call it Crazy says

FortWayne says

And they want more taxes? Over my dead body!

They might tax that too....

They already do. They call it the Death Tax.

If you can't afford to die, please don't. They will dig you up, just to get your coffin.

46126   Heraclitusstudent   2014 May 8, 3:19am  

I was talking of 'geopolitical' conditions. I don't see nationalism rising in Germany. I don't see Iraq being ruined by war reparations. The set of problems we face now is totally different.

The key issue with your model is the fragility of the financial sector caused by debt. In the 20s, buying stocks on margin was making the stock market as vulnerable as the housing market became in the 2000s.

I don't see this happening now. On the opposite I see the financial sector being consolidated. Not that there is no margin debt now, but it doesn't compare to what the mortgage market problem was in 2005.

Idle cash, low interest rates, and corporate profits are a function of fed policies now, not rising debt in the private sector.

There is only so much you can make of an historical comparison to something that happened 80years ago. Everything was different then, including the financial system, the monetary system, the regulations etc...

The vulnerable points are in Asia. Nationalism is rising in Asia. Financial risks are huge in China and Japan.

46127   casandra   2014 May 8, 3:53am  

also CA lawmakers said the poor, meaning those that already get a free lunch, won't be subject to this tax, they will get to drive their cadilacs for free.

don't be a working slob in this state, if you work here you are a fool.

This is land of the Free, not land of the Freedum, dummies !

46128   justme   2014 May 8, 4:04am  

Senator Mark DeSaulnier is a fool. What a royally stupid idea. The correct solution is HIGHER GASOLINE TAX.

Higher gasoline taxes promote more efficient vehicles, lighter vehicles, carpooling and lower miles driven per vehicle.

A pure per-mile tax is regressive and promotes wasteful behavior.

46129   clambo   2014 May 8, 4:44am  

Imagine that Yellen had the temerity to mention this.

46130   mmmarvel   2014 May 8, 4:50am  

dublin hillz says

everyone would get a complimentary hummer

Are we talking the vehicle or ... ??

46132   tatupu70   2014 May 8, 6:54am  

Paralithodes says

Sure I could have told you... But why bother?

So I could appropriately point out where you are incorrect (like Bob already did).

Paralithodes says

You specifically asserted that in general there was literally LESS regulation today than decades ago

Yes, and that is a VERY different statement than the one you assert that I made:

tatupu70 says

and that new regulation does not impact small businesses

Paralithodes says

If that's the case, what's your issue: that I say it's "significant" and you disagree and think it's not significant?

Yes, I think I agree.

Paralithodes says

OK, for once, provide some type of evidence or logical explanation, based on the real world, for why you think it's not. Time for you to actually provide some info of value beyond your simple (and often obviously inexperienced) opinion.

I'm not sure what you are looking for here--do you want me to get 50 small business owners and give them a survey? How do I prove that it's insignificant? Showing that business formation correlates very well with economic health?

I would think it would be much easier for you to simply list out 25 new regulations that are significantly affecting small businesses--why can't you do that? If it's such a huge problem for them, it should be easy to do, right?

46133   bob2356   2014 May 8, 12:08pm  

Call it Crazy says

The one I posted was instituted as part of the ACA as an Excise Tax, not a user fee...

Go back further, I talked about ACA excise tax. Affects everyone the same anyway. It's a tax not a regulation.

46134   Mikhail01   2014 May 8, 12:16pm  

To the guy that uses a face of a Jewish invented Communist...... was there a point to the "Whiskey Rebellion" statement as being relevant to my post ??? I don't see any semblance of that refuting my post. At first, I thought you were saying someone there was the original American "homegrown terrorist", but that wasn't the case.

Mine was a reference to the Banksterberg & Banksterstein owned media........and how they can make anyone out to be evil, yet anyone not from that tribe of blood sacrificers may in fact have a more normal human view.........and not that more akin to Neanderthals.

Take anything you see in today's media with a large dose of doubt and make an effort to see the tribe's end aim.....such as when they called Zimmerman "White-Hispanic" when we all know Zimmerman is Jewish....as is his father.

Also Jewish..........

Adam Lanza of Sandy Hook
Jared Lee Loughner of Tucson
Columbine Trench Coat Mafia
Ted Kaczynski
Bernie Madoff
and the man that brought 1920s & 30s Germany style hyperinflation to America today, Ben Bernanke............

..........all from the tribe of blood sacrificers, U.S. tax dollar leeches, and owners of most of American media......and American political prostitutes in D.C. (maplight dot org......if you need to verify).

My statement stands. George was also human. Not many are infallible, but at least we're not Neanderthal.....as that tribe seems to be.

46135   Mikhail01   2014 May 8, 12:42pm  

"Hillbilly"s are from the hills of West Virginia and maybe Kentucky. Downtown L.A.........a bit more primitive. At least Hillbilly's speak English, at least a version of it, and don't commit genocide on their own people. Personally, I speak Redneck....fluently, although I graduated high school speaking proper English. (I promptly unlearned it and adopted my Grandfather's much, much more colorful language....and haven't worn starched clothes since.)

(Redneck, the new version just like "gay" doesn't mean happy anymore.....and "niggers" come in all colors these days, not just black, and black if definitely different than "nigger", just ask Chris Rock or his Mom.......... and Redneck by choice, not because I have to be........and I keep current on the search for the Higg's boson, anti-matter, and the updating of "string theory" or "super string theory", Wall Street's various scams and their intribe over-seers, the background of various individuals.....such as Obama's mother having worked for Timothy Geithner's father while he was an investment bankster in China for the criminal Warburg clam from Germany.........and how world Judea declared war on Germany in 1933, well ahead of any hostile acts from Hitler toward them....and well ahead of any hostilities involved in WW2).

So your use of supposedly derogatory terms........will be like calling Ellen Degenerate or Barney Frank "gay". Facts carry much more water........helping one walk upright instead of falling and flopping about seemingly helpless for the lack thereof.

46136   Y   2014 May 8, 1:11pm  

are you talking about secular abstinence?

bgamall4 says

Talmudic Laws of Noahide

46137   Dan8267   2014 May 8, 3:04pm  

FortWayne says

Liberals have different standard for their own. Obama made some racial remarks during his recent partying. Not a cricket was heard from liberals about it.

For the last time, this is not Obama. It is a chair.

46138   Dan8267   2014 May 8, 3:11pm  

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

The second amendment guarantees Americans the right to carry weaponry at least as powerful as the military's.

Actually, that's correct. The Second Amendment says "the right to bear arms", not guns. Arms is a more general term. It means precisely that the people must have access to all weapons the government has. This made sense in the 18th century, but doesn't in the 21st.

The bottom line is that the Second Amendment isn't in effect today or you could have nukes, biological/chemical weapons, land mines, RPGs, and tanks.

46139   Rew   2014 May 8, 4:12pm  

Call it Crazy says

Things are "different" there...

False imprisonment with a deadly weapon is a felony in Nevada. Look it up.

Call it Crazy says

I don't think the same standards are always enforced in hillbilly land..

Enforcement has nothing to do with if a crime was committed or not.

Edit: Other laws likely being broken, not related to the armed traffic roadblocks, that have a high potential to lead to arrest ...

Militia : transporting guns across state lines with intent to commit crime
Militia/Bundy : threats against federal officers
Bundy : contempt of court

... and the roadblocks are just beyond dumb, because those are crimes being committed against local residents. From Carol's (Bundy's wife) blog: "The terror of armed men occupying our land will never be forgotten." Oh, the irony.

46140   tatupu70   2014 May 8, 9:30pm  

Call it Crazy says

Just as predicted..... No evidence or info as requested, just more questions....

Did you find the proof of snopes bias yet?

46141   georgeliberte   2014 May 8, 9:57pm  

More to the point than showing depravity on the part of realtors, this shows the dangers of hypermoralistic Midwestern attitudes about sex- it is easier to hide depravity where it is a great embarrassment. I lived in Southeast Kansas while in the military and found as much goes on there as in California; but, in California depravity is flaunted while it id hidden in Oklahoma and Kansas. Yes, those churchgoing girls do, and at the same frequency as less up tight parts of the world.

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