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"It's the economy, stupid!"
- Some random democrat

Quigley says

"It's the economy, stupid!"

- Some random democrat

Not denying it.

That's what's interesting: every news anchor, everyone I work with, everyone in my family, all my friends would deny they're socialists (2-3 exceptions), but all believe the president is the captain of the ship who manages the economy. That is, there is an absolute embrace of the principle that the head of state is there to guide the economy - it's embedded to near-lizard-brain depth.

SoftShell says

When a small business owner is told "you didn't build that", they tend to fall
into an "Ok, I don't get credit for building the business, fuck you I don't give
a fuck anymore" state, and their business fails.

Really? Anyone with this kind of mindset doesn't have the mettle to be a business owner, or even much of an employee. It sounds like a rich man's wife, whining about running her heavily-subsidized-by-hubby hobby business.

The POTUS may or may not be the economic captain, but he certainly can be the rock upon which all economic legislation runs aground. If Obama doesn't like something like, say, the pipeline from Montana to Texas, it's going to make that almost impossible to get done. Obama has a proven record of being the spanner in the works of economic recovery, vetoing legislation that would add good jobs and money.

Don't call it a tax. All roads should be toll roads.

Cyclists and pedestrians should be charged a fee to use the streets too.

Peter P says

Don't call it a tax. All roads should be toll roads.

Cyclists and pedestrians should be charged a fee to use the streets too.

Using your reasoning parents should be paying much higher taxes to support all the tax dollars spent on their kids.

Sarcasm.
Time to mount your low horse....

Automan Empire says

SoftShell says

When a small business owner is told "you didn't build that", they tend to fall

into an "Ok, I don't get credit for building the business, fuck you I don't give

a fuck anymore" state, and their business fails.

Really? Anyone with this kind of mindset doesn't have the mettle to be a business owner, or even much of an employee. It sounds like a rich man's wife, whining about running her heavily-subsidized-by-hubby hobby business.

zzyzzx says

Peter P says

Don't call it a tax. All roads should be toll roads.

Cyclists and pedestrians should be charged a fee to use the streets too.

Using your reasoning parents should be paying much higher taxes to support all the tax dollars spent on their kids.

Absolutely.

Strategist says

Dear Governor Brown,
You said we need to reduce pollution, reduce the trade deficit, reduce asthma and respiratory illnesses due to pollution, and save the environment. You said I should buy a Prius, so I did.
Now you say I should get charged by the mile because the Prius is not consuming enough gas. Are you now saying I should not have got my Prius?
Thanks
Citizen

If the terminator were to have remained governor everyone would get a complimentary hummer and gas tax receipts would not be an issue...

Call it Crazy says

Strategist says

Dear Governor Brown,

You said we need to reduce pollution, reduce the trade deficit, reduce asthma and respiratory illnesses due to pollution, and save the environment. You said I should buy a Prius, so I did.

Now you say I should get charged by the mile because the Prius is not consuming enough gas. Are you now saying I should not have got my Prius?

Thanks

Citizen

Ha Ha Ha.... How do you like your Prius NOW while living in paradise (CA)??

It's for sale.

I already pay outrageous taxes for just about everything, income tax, sales tax, property tax, all other miscellaneous taxes when buying sertain items.

And they want more taxes? Over my dead body!

Call it Crazy says

I think he might have been referring to this Medical Device Excise Tax as part of the ACA:

Already discussed.

Call it Crazy says

FortWayne says

And they want more taxes? Over my dead body!

They might tax that too....

They already do. They call it the Death Tax.

Lol you idiots voted these people into office, not me.

Strategist says

Call it Crazy says

FortWayne says

And they want more taxes? Over my dead body!

They might tax that too....

They already do. They call it the Death Tax.

If you can't afford to die, please don't. They will dig you up, just to get your coffin.

I was talking of 'geopolitical' conditions. I don't see nationalism rising in Germany. I don't see Iraq being ruined by war reparations. The set of problems we face now is totally different.

The key issue with your model is the fragility of the financial sector caused by debt. In the 20s, buying stocks on margin was making the stock market as vulnerable as the housing market became in the 2000s.

I don't see this happening now. On the opposite I see the financial sector being consolidated. Not that there is no margin debt now, but it doesn't compare to what the mortgage market problem was in 2005.

Idle cash, low interest rates, and corporate profits are a function of fed policies now, not rising debt in the private sector.

There is only so much you can make of an historical comparison to something that happened 80years ago. Everything was different then, including the financial system, the monetary system, the regulations etc...

The vulnerable points are in Asia. Nationalism is rising in Asia. Financial risks are huge in China and Japan.

also CA lawmakers said the poor, meaning those that already get a free lunch, won't be subject to this tax, they will get to drive their cadilacs for free.

don't be a working slob in this state, if you work here you are a fool.

This is land of the Free, not land of the Freedum, dummies !

Senator Mark DeSaulnier is a fool. What a royally stupid idea. The correct solution is HIGHER GASOLINE TAX.

Higher gasoline taxes promote more efficient vehicles, lighter vehicles, carpooling and lower miles driven per vehicle.

A pure per-mile tax is regressive and promotes wasteful behavior.

Imagine that Yellen had the temerity to mention this.

dublin hillz says

everyone would get a complimentary hummer

Are we talking the vehicle or ... ??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1rjf7zdD-M&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Paralithodes says

Sure I could have told you... But why bother?

So I could appropriately point out where you are incorrect (like Bob already did).

Paralithodes says

You specifically asserted that in general there was literally LESS regulation today than decades ago

Yes, and that is a VERY different statement than the one you assert that I made:

tatupu70 says

and that new regulation does not impact small businesses

Paralithodes says

If that's the case, what's your issue: that I say it's "significant" and you disagree and think it's not significant?

Yes, I think I agree.

Paralithodes says

OK, for once, provide some type of evidence or logical explanation, based on the real world, for why you think it's not. Time for you to actually provide some info of value beyond your simple (and often obviously inexperienced) opinion.

I'm not sure what you are looking for here--do you want me to get 50 small business owners and give them a survey? How do I prove that it's insignificant? Showing that business formation correlates very well with economic health?

I would think it would be much easier for you to simply list out 25 new regulations that are significantly affecting small businesses--why can't you do that? If it's such a huge problem for them, it should be easy to do, right?

Call it Crazy says

The one I posted was instituted as part of the ACA as an Excise Tax, not a user fee...

Go back further, I talked about ACA excise tax. Affects everyone the same anyway. It's a tax not a regulation.

To the guy that uses a face of a Jewish invented Communist...... was there a point to the "Whiskey Rebellion" statement as being relevant to my post ??? I don't see any semblance of that refuting my post. At first, I thought you were saying someone there was the original American "homegrown terrorist", but that wasn't the case.

Mine was a reference to the Banksterberg & Banksterstein owned media........and how they can make anyone out to be evil, yet anyone not from that tribe of blood sacrificers may in fact have a more normal human view.........and not that more akin to Neanderthals.

Take anything you see in today's media with a large dose of doubt and make an effort to see the tribe's end aim.....such as when they called Zimmerman "White-Hispanic" when we all know Zimmerman is Jewish....as is his father.

Also Jewish..........

Adam Lanza of Sandy Hook
Jared Lee Loughner of Tucson
Columbine Trench Coat Mafia
Ted Kaczynski
Bernie Madoff
and the man that brought 1920s & 30s Germany style hyperinflation to America today, Ben Bernanke............

..........all from the tribe of blood sacrificers, U.S. tax dollar leeches, and owners of most of American media......and American political prostitutes in D.C. (maplight dot org......if you need to verify).

My statement stands. George was also human. Not many are infallible, but at least we're not Neanderthal.....as that tribe seems to be.

"Hillbilly"s are from the hills of West Virginia and maybe Kentucky. Downtown L.A.........a bit more primitive. At least Hillbilly's speak English, at least a version of it, and don't commit genocide on their own people. Personally, I speak Redneck....fluently, although I graduated high school speaking proper English. (I promptly unlearned it and adopted my Grandfather's much, much more colorful language....and haven't worn starched clothes since.)

(Redneck, the new version just like "gay" doesn't mean happy anymore.....and "niggers" come in all colors these days, not just black, and black if definitely different than "nigger", just ask Chris Rock or his Mom.......... and Redneck by choice, not because I have to be........and I keep current on the search for the Higg's boson, anti-matter, and the updating of "string theory" or "super string theory", Wall Street's various scams and their intribe over-seers, the background of various individuals.....such as Obama's mother having worked for Timothy Geithner's father while he was an investment bankster in China for the criminal Warburg clam from Germany.........and how world Judea declared war on Germany in 1933, well ahead of any hostile acts from Hitler toward them....and well ahead of any hostilities involved in WW2).

So your use of supposedly derogatory terms........will be like calling Ellen Degenerate or Barney Frank "gay". Facts carry much more water........helping one walk upright instead of falling and flopping about seemingly helpless for the lack thereof.

are you talking about secular abstinence?

bgamall4 says

Talmudic Laws of Noahide

FortWayne says

Liberals have different standard for their own. Obama made some racial remarks during his recent partying. Not a cricket was heard from liberals about it.

For the last time, this is not Obama. It is a chair.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

The second amendment guarantees Americans the right to carry weaponry at least as powerful as the military's.

Actually, that's correct. The Second Amendment says "the right to bear arms", not guns. Arms is a more general term. It means precisely that the people must have access to all weapons the government has. This made sense in the 18th century, but doesn't in the 21st.

The bottom line is that the Second Amendment isn't in effect today or you could have nukes, biological/chemical weapons, land mines, RPGs, and tanks.

Call it Crazy says

Things are "different" there...

False imprisonment with a deadly weapon is a felony in Nevada. Look it up.

Call it Crazy says

I don't think the same standards are always enforced in hillbilly land..

Enforcement has nothing to do with if a crime was committed or not.

Edit: Other laws likely being broken, not related to the armed traffic roadblocks, that have a high potential to lead to arrest ...

Militia : transporting guns across state lines with intent to commit crime
Militia/Bundy : threats against federal officers
Bundy : contempt of court

... and the roadblocks are just beyond dumb, because those are crimes being committed against local residents. From Carol's (Bundy's wife) blog: "The terror of armed men occupying our land will never be forgotten." Oh, the irony.

Call it Crazy says

Just as predicted..... No evidence or info as requested, just more questions....

Did you find the proof of snopes bias yet?

More to the point than showing depravity on the part of realtors, this shows the dangers of hypermoralistic Midwestern attitudes about sex- it is easier to hide depravity where it is a great embarrassment. I lived in Southeast Kansas while in the military and found as much goes on there as in California; but, in California depravity is flaunted while it id hidden in Oklahoma and Kansas. Yes, those churchgoing girls do, and at the same frequency as less up tight parts of the world.

Call it Crazy says

I'll post it right after you supply answers to all the questions posed to YOU in this thread.... Which, based on your posting history, means I'll never have to supply anything...

OK--let's take a look. Here are the questions that I can find:

Paralithodes says

Is it your hypothesis that regulation is (a) not a factor at all or (b) only an insignificant factor? And on what do you base your hypothesis?

Answered here:

tatupu70 says

My hypothesis is that regulation is a small factor. I base that on the OP's assertion that small business formation has had a "steep drop" since 2006. I think business conditions are a much larger factor than regulations.

Paralithodes says

When did you "show" this?

Answered here:

tatupu70 says

Obviously you didn't read the thread to which I refer. It's not that complicated. If business were starved for capital and that is what is holding back new formation and growth, interest rates wouldn't be near all time lows.

Paralithodes says

If that's the case, what's your issue: that I say it's "significant" and you disagree and think it's not significant?

Answered here:

tatupu70 says

Yes, I think I agree.

Did I miss anything? I believe I've answered all questions. So, time for you to provide the proof you promised.

If realtors were clearly identifiable - say, by being on fire and writhing on the ground - the children would be safe.

Iosef V HydroCabron says

If realtors were clearly identifiable - say, by the fact that they were on fire and writhing on the ground - the children would be safe.

You know what they say:
"You can build a realtor a fire and it will stay warm for a night, but SET a realtor on fire and it will stay warm for the rest of its life!"

Obligatory:

Quigley says

Obama has a proven record of being the spanner in the works of economic recovery, vetoing legislation that would add good jobs and money.

Obama has made exactly 2 vetoes and I bet you can't name what they are without looking them up.

Which specific legislation are you thinking of besides Keystone XL (for which Phase III was approved, btw)? Please be specific on how it would "add good jobs and money"?

I'm with HydroCabron (still one of the best aliases ever) on this one. Idiots who think the president can command our economy are a dime a dozen.

The president with the help of Congress can either create favorable conditions for the economy or the opposite. Obama, Pelosi, Reid have done the opposite.

Taxes and regulations were raised. This hinders GDP growth.

Obamacare will further depress hiring or full time employment. The OMB even has an estimate of how much it will depress GDP growth.

"Share the wealth" Obama told a guy who was self-employed. "You didn't build that" Obama said to employment creators.

"Cash for clunkers" amateur hour in the White House, this was supposed to stimulate the car industry somehow. Lame.

Solyndra, this was doomed before the plans were even drawn up. Green jobs another bunch of baloney. But this didn't really matter in the big picture since we all knew it was bullshit.

Obama wants to sic the EPA on people creating jobs and energy.

But, the reason Obama was a bad executive was obvious, he chose health care as the #1 priority while millions of people were out of work. He used the opportunity to further a political agenda to change health care rather than focus on the actual problem that most Americans were concerned about.

Therefore Obama can take the blame for the lousy 2% GDP growth since he took office. He focused on the wrong issue and so is therefore an idiot.

How can this be when housing market so strong and billions coming in from overseas. Just released the report on the housing market which shows the active listings inventory for Single Family Homes in Marin increased 14% to a season high in the month of April. Sales continue to be strong with the number of sold listings increasing by 28% month-over-month...
http://www.marinhomelistings.com/Communities/Monthly-Market-Report/Marin-Market-Snapshot-APR-30-2014

clambo says

Taxes and regulations were raised. This hinders GDP growth.

Cash for Clunkers was always stupid. As for the rest of the stuff, there are plenty of counterarguments (and cherry-picking quotes without context doesn't count as an argument). Higher taxes on well-off people doesn't have to hinder GDP growth (see Clinton). Some regulations also create jobs (and you can't really name specific ones that have hindered GDP growth, I'm guessing).

clambo says

Solyndra, this was doomed before the plans were even drawn up. Green jobs another bunch of baloney. But this didn't really matter in the big picture since we all knew it was bullshit.

Obama wants to sic the EPA on people creating jobs and energy.

This is utter nonsense. Solyndra was part of a portfolio, and the rest of the portfolio is doing well. But keep saying "Solyndra" to identify yourself as clueless about that.

In addition, green energy jobs are growing quite quickly -- don't know why you'd want to shoot them down if you care about economic growth.

clambo says

he chose health care as the #1 priority while millions of people were out of work. He used the opportunity to further a political agenda to change health care rather than focus on the actual problem that most Americans were concerned about.

You think a lot of Americans don't care about healthcare? I'm pretty sure I can find a lot of evidence to the contrary. Last I checked, *Congress* passed the Affordable Care Act, and Obama played almost no role in its composition (which is something I would criticize -- I think the White House should have taken a larger hand in crafting the legislation). The Obama administration did play a role in implementing it, but that's what the executive branch does, last I checked.

The reality is that presidents have very little control over the course of the world economy and the US economy, and the constitution ensures that. Otherwise, you're asking for what HydroCabron said.

Behzad says

Just released the report on the housing market which shows the active listings inventory for Single Family Homes in Marin increased 14% to a season high in the month of April. Sales continue to be strong with the number of sold listings increasing by 28% month-over-month...

Why would we care about month-over-month numbers? They are useless because used-house sales are seasonal. It's quite obvious that sales and inventory in certain months are typically higher than other months.