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That is a really fucking good point.

As Amnesty International recently pointed out, the "six Gulf countries -- Qatar, United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Oman and Bahrain -- have offered zero resettlement places to Syrian refugees."

Duh. So the sunni, predominately super conservative wahhabi, arab states haven't opened up to the syrian alawite shia refugees that have been oppressing the sunni majority in syria for the last 40 years. I'm shocked I tell you, simply shocked.

So you're saying Europe has a responsibility to take care of them, but the rich Arab countries do not?

bob2356 says

Duh. So the sunni, predominately super conservative wahhabi, arab states haven't opened up to the syrian alawite shia refugees that have been oppressing the sunni majority in syria for the last 40 years. I'm shocked I tell you, simply shocked.

Most of the refugees are Sunni.

So you're saying Europe has a responsibility to take care of them, but the rich Arab countries do not?

Nah but Europe needs to man up and put their foot down. I think it was Merkel that was saying there was no legal way to limit the number of asylum seekers-so if 1 billion people showed up at their door-are they going to provide asylum for all?

After the World War II, methinks the Europeans have actually begun to swallow their own bullshit about how good, pious and noble they are and so unwanted guests keep arriving, being fed, clothed at owner's expense. Lets see how long it lasts, before another Donald Trump arises. This state of affairs can only last until people are afraid of being called racist/sexist/whateverist. Once they don't care-the danger is that some really extreme right wing nut will arise-but unfortunately that is how it usually goes.

methinks feminazism is the prime cause for the destruction of the west. When the male has been reduced to a state of semi slavery with little choices and no recourse-he loses interest in defense and waves of invaders pour in and some time the feminazis will realize and cry for help-but by then theyw ill be wearing tents and not allowed to walk alone in public.,

If they crush the refugees up with plant matter under high pressure for a few millenia, they will turn into another oil resource. Better get started, time's a wasteing.

Feux Follets says

The Kuwaiti politician Fahed al- Shelaimi, who heads the Gulf Forum on Peace and Security, provided an answer that shocked millions in the Arab world.

“Gulf states are expensive and aside from being laborers, these people are not suitable for life here,” he said.

“At the end of the day, people from a different environment who suffer from emotional problems cannot be received in your society,” he added

What is wrong with that? they are looking out for their own country and asking others to solve their own issues??

Well, after what the Palestinians pulled in East Palestine (aka Jordan), in 1970, who can blame them?

Though the US, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and the UK are largely responsible for the refugees in the first place. Nothing that Assad and Hezbollah can't fix, if only the West would stop "accidentally" bombing Kurds and Syrian Army forces.

Bob says:
"Duh. So the sunni, predominately super conservative wahhabi, arab states haven't opened up to the syrian alawite shia refugees that have been oppressing the sunni majority in syria for the last 40 years. I'm shocked I tell you, simply shocked."

Strategist responds:
They should open their doors to their Arab brothers, Palestinians included. Islamic countries have a history off oppressing each other.
Ofcourse when it comes to terrorism hate and threats against Israel and the West, they have no problem putting aside their differences.
I'm shocked I tell you, simply shocked.

They don't want Hilary's CIA operatives fucking shit up. They are trained to take whole governments down with Social media and be called a regime with out a UN resolution.

Bigsby says

bob2356 says

Duh. So the sunni, predominately super conservative wahhabi, arab states haven't opened up to the syrian alawite shia refugees that have been oppressing the sunni majority in syria for the last 40 years. I'm shocked I tell you, simply shocked.

Most of the refugees are Sunni.

I haven't read that. Just the opposite in fact. But I haven't been following closely for a while so the situation may have changed. Most of the area's under attack are shia area's, supporters of the regime, and the people attacking are sunni. Why would most of the refugees be sunni? ISIS is very radical sunni, but are they really driving out that many sunni's? You are in Bahrain if I remember correctly, so you have access to much better reporting than will ever be seen in the US. What is being reported in the arab press?

Strategist says

Strategist responds:

That's the problem in a nutshell.

It is the autocratic puppet rulers propped by the West who oppose, not the normal citizens. All Arab countries are ruled by tyrants

Feux Follets says

"Pope tells Europe's churches to host refugees. Vatican will host refugee families and wants parishes and religious institutions around Europe to do same, Pope Francis says."

you have to admit that this pope is being a good christian, which unfortunately has not been true of all popes.

and maybe it's a good strategic move for catholics. when the refugees note that the catholic church is helping them but super-rich saudi wahabis aren't doing shit for them, they might consider risking their lives to convert.

- Sell all of the material holdings of the church.
- Buy a monster plot of land outside Alamagordo, New Mexico.
- Build the largest refugee sanctuary conceivable there
- Place huge signs, in 8-foot Comic Sans font at 1/4-mile intervals asong the perimeter, saying "We have violated every single teaching of Christ, worshipped luxury and mammon, and sucked kiddie cock for two thousand years. We are sorry, and we will stop. We now dedicate the Catholic Church to good works."

Then I will say the pope is making a difference.

BTW who has instigated more wars, the Muslims or the Christians?

Indigenous asks:
"BTW who has instigated more wars, the Muslims or the Christians?"

Strategies:
Hard to say. The real question is, who instigates the most wars today? And the most human rights abuse? And slavery?
Let's stop them.

Strategist says

The real question is, who instigates the most wars today?

That is easy, the United States.

Rsteady market watcher says

It is the autocratic puppet rulers propped by the West who oppose, not the normal citizens. All Arab countries are ruled by tyrants

People generally get the government they deserve. Or at least the government that's capable of controlling members of the predominant culture.
In the Middle East with its Muslim extremist fringe that looks like tyranny to people from a Christian democratic republic. Any questions?

bob2356 says

I haven't read that. Just the opposite in fact. But I haven't been following closely for a while so the situation may have changed. Most of the area's under attack are shia area's, supporters of the regime, and the people attacking are sunni. Why would most of the refugees be sunni? ISIS is very radical sunni, but are they really driving out that many sunni's? You are in Bahrain if I remember correctly, so you have access to much better reporting than will ever be seen in the US. What is being reported in the arab press?

The majority of refugees have always been Sunni. The areas that have been destroyed/bombed/ravaged most by the civil war were/are predominantly Sunni areas. They took the brunt of it when the civil war started and have subsequently had to deal with all the extremist elements that came in to fill the vacuum.

well we have enough sunni in the usa...what we need is a nice rainy breed...

Bigsby says

Most of the refugees are Sunni.

its the fuckin desert.....DUHHHHH>>>>

Bigsby says

The areas that have been destroyed/bombed/ravaged most by the civil war were/are predominantly Sunni areas.

pointed out, the "six Gulf countries -- Qatar, United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Oman and Bahrain

Throw in Russia and China and all of Asia, who also are doing nothing. Not to menion all of the continent of Africa, which contains many prosperous oil and trading rich billionaires and nations like Nigeria and South Africa.

I hate to say it, but this is a great week for showing the charity of Christianity and paucity of almsgiving and good deeds from all the rest.

They don't want to go to Russia, China, or the rest of Asia.
They all want to live in Western Europe and America, the land of Satan.
Strange, the countries they hate the most, is also what the want the most.

Strategist says

They don't want to go to Russia, China, or the rest of Asia.

They all want to live in Western Europe and America, the land of Satan.

Strange, the countries they hate the most, is also what the want the most.

Some attempt to go where they may get in and also have the possibility of finding work, whilst millions remain behind in refugee camps in Lebanon, Jordan and Turkey. It's all well and good going on about the thousands heading for Germany, UK etc... It's not those countries facing the real issues.

John Bailo says

I hate to say it, but this is a great week for showing the charity of Christianity and paucity of almsgiving and good deeds from all the rest.

Good point. Then there is Jordan, one of their refugee camps:

Mr Happygoluckofus says

They don't want Hilary's CIA operatives fucking shit up. They are trained to take whole governments down with Social media and be called a regime with out a UN resolution.

And they're too lazy to change the "Raised Fist in Circle" logo.

John Bailo says

Throw in Russia and China and all of Asia, who also are doing nothing. Not to menion all of the continent of Africa, which contains many prosperous oil and trading rich billionaires and nations like Nigeria and South Africa.

Russia is doing something - they are arming Assad to crush the Fundamentalist Muslims that are supported by Saudi Arabia while we look the other way, our occupation of Iraq didn't help.

Had Medeved not been fooled by the White House, he should have vetoed the bombing of Libya. Just like Syria, we pretended we were only going bomb the Fundies, then bombed the Dictator's forces "by accident" (just like we accidentally hit Assad's forces in Syria, or the Turks "helping" "accidentally" bomb Syrian Kurds) Then we wouldn't have fundie crazies in control of more than half that country.

I wonder what the ratio to the US bombing Syria/Libya budget is to humanitarian aid there.

Any "War on Terror" that doesn't start with assassinations and bombing of Riyadh is all bullshit.

thunderlips11 says

Any "War on Terror" that doesn't start with assassinations and bombing of Riyadh is all bullshit.

true, but since the saudis and bush families have their tongues down each others' throats, terror will continue to get funded with every gallon of gas any american buys:

http://sayitaintsoalready.com/2009/04/15/george-bush-kisses-a-saudi-prince/

Apparently not peculiar to Bush?

https://www.youtube.com/embed/0QEgBkqiFoc

Brilliant, thanks GSR.

Love how the Danish Guy is predicting massive influx of refugees if the US intervenes in Libya - back in 20111.

Bigsby says

bob2356 says

I haven't read that. Just the opposite in fact. But I haven't been following closely for a while so the situation may have changed. Most of the area's under attack are shia area's, supporters of the regime, and the people attacking are sunni. Why would most of the refugees be sunni? ISIS is very radical sunni, but are they really driving out that many sunni's? You are in Bahrain if I remember correctly, so you have access to much better reporting than will ever be seen in the US. What is being reported in the arab press?

The majority of refugees have always been Sunni. The areas that have been destroyed/bombed/ravaged most by the civil war were/are predominantly Sunni areas. They took the brunt of it when the civil war started and have subsequently had to deal with all the extremist elements that came in to fill the vacuum.

I'm surprised at that, at least for the refugees that have left Syria, which last I read was 3 million or about a third. I would have thought a big percentage, maybe not the majority, would have been shia, non muslim, and kurds. The vast majority of the fighting has been in Homs/Aleppo which is heavily Imanis/twelver, in Latakia/Idlib which is heavily Alawite , Damascas south west to the Golan Heights which is a mixed bag of mostly non muslim, and the north east kurdish area's. These area's are also the area's that border other countries, allowing easier egress than is available in the heavily sunni area's further away from the borders. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-22798391

The 6 million internal refugees I'm have no doubt are mostly sunni.

The facts are that the majority of refugees are Sunni. Lebanon is now trying to restrict entry partly because they already have 1.5m refugees, but also partly because the majority of those are Sunni. It's hardly surprising considering they constitute 74% of the population. You mention Imanis and Twelver, but they are only a small percent of the population. Kurds are predominantly Sunni.

Bigsby says

Kurds are predominantly Sunni.

But clearly they are not fanatic Sunnis. They can't get along with ISIS.

Greed is an epidemic spread over all races,political & religious theologies & there's no cure.

I'm not driving illegally, officer, I'm an undocumented driver! You think you can deny me freedom of travel just because I don't have plates, registration, or a DL? MUH HUMAN RIGHTS!!11!!

Wow, thank you Bay Aarea.

Can anybody read this and think Saudi Arabia isn't deliberately assisting the export of Islamists to Europe, particularly Germany and Sweden?

The crowd of Sunnis that arrived via Hungary to Austria chanted "Germany! Germany! Germany!" at the Terminal, where they were greeted by Austrian Politicians.

Look folks - Turkey takes in refugees from the Middle East. It's a mid-level developing country, it's not a hellhole like Rwanda.

The kid that drowned - his father left Turkey after living there for a year in asylum. The whole family was well fed and clothed, had cell phones, etc. He wasn't kicked out of Turkey, he took his family voluntarily in an attempt to reach Sugar Candy Welfare Land.

Dammit, Welfare States and High Levels of Immigrants are incompatible.

Integration is a joke. Schools are set on fire almost everyday in Sweden. The perps are usually immigrant kids sick of "Shirk Disbeliever Lies", you know, Tolerance, Skepticism, Science. These schools aren't Detroit Slum Schools with broken windows, asbestos, etc. These are Ikea Schools, clean with beautiful modern furniture, exceptionally trained teachers, computers, bright and well lit, plenty of time for physical activity.

When we write the history of the how the West failed, the enthusiastic import of endless immigrants, a policy endorsed by all Neoliberals in Europe, the Center-left for Multi Cult purposes and the Center-right for "Labor Discipline/Overload the Welfare State so it breaks" purposes, will be one of the key reasons.

thunderlips11 says

Dammit, Welfare States and High Levels of Immigrants are incompatible.

That's the main point.

gsr says

Bigsby says

Kurds are predominantly Sunni.

But clearly they are not fanatic Sunnis. They can't get along with ISIS.

So what? We were talking about whether the majority of refugees were Sunni or not.