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76579   lostand confused   2016 Nov 5, 11:31am  

Now I am abit nervous. I still think he will win-I really don't want our country to turn into a 3rd world hellhole.

What is wrong with the lefties???

76580   marcus   2016 Nov 5, 1:51pm  

Heraclitusstudent says

they won't calmly accept it

I wish I didn't know that Trump is the candidate that will make it worse.

76581   joshuatrio   2016 Nov 5, 3:57pm  

It's funny. The double standards of the left.

They say something, it's ok. The right says it, it becomes a vast right wing conspiracy.

I really do dislike the Clintons. I don't remember it ever being this bad till they got involved.

76582   Gary Anderson   2016 Nov 5, 4:16pm  

But, Ironman, it is rigged against working men and women because of economics. First there is too much money at the top and too much speculation on real estate. Second, the Fed has done too good a job looking for markets for long bonds, forcing interest rates down. I wrote about that bond yields on the longer end is a function of demand for bonds:

http://www.talkmarkets.com/content/bonds/keeping-interest-rates-low-is-a-function-of-demand-not-of-politics?post=105956&uid=4798

This was confirmed by the premier bond guru of Blackrock, essentially making two different predictions in the same article at Business Insider:

http://www.talkmarkets.com/content/bonds-education/blackrock-cap-on-yields-because-of-monumental-bond-demand?post=111451&uid=4798

Bonds are the new gold in derivatives markets, used as collateral. Trillions of dollars are committed to the new clearinghouses. So, this slows the economy because the Fed's hands are tied and cannot raise rates which would help the economy by stimulating lending and would show that inflation could run a little hot yet could be stopped anytime. That is no longer the case.

76583   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2016 Nov 5, 4:20pm  

Are you going to grace us with your opinion on what the popular vote will be given the obvious skew in the polls? We want to benefit from the full awesomeness of your wisdom and experience.

76584   Gary Anderson   2016 Nov 5, 4:23pm  

Ironmen, they poll based upon the percentage of voters from each party likely to vote. It is all out in the open.

76585   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Nov 5, 4:29pm  

joshuatrio says

They say something, it's ok. The right says it, it becomes a vast right wing conspiracy.

Best example: The same "reasonable democrats" who criticized Dubya's foreign policy, defend Hillary's bad choices and not only ignore her Sabre-Rattling, they alternatively dismiss it or encourage it.

@Gary doesn't appreciate Victoria Nuland will get promoted to Assnt Sec. of State or other high level office.

76586   Ceffer   2016 Nov 5, 11:15pm  

Of course. He will declare himself Emperor of the states that voted for him and declare the rest to be in civil war against him.

76587   HydroCabron   2016 Nov 5, 11:26pm  

As the rightful winner of the election, having secured a majority of the white vote, Fat Birther must preemptively expel refractory states from the union.

76588   Dan8267   2016 Nov 5, 11:35pm  

DieBankOfAmericaPhukkingDie says

Plenipotentiary

I come to PatNet to learn new vocabulary. It never disappoints.

76589   Booger   2016 Nov 6, 4:27am  

Except for Hawaii and DC, there are no states that won't vote for Trump. Unlike Reagan's re-election, Trump can win in Minnesota.

76590   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2016 Nov 6, 6:02am  

Heraclitusstudent says

These people may be 40% today, but add 4yrs or rising heathcare and housing costs, plus a new recession, and they may well be a majority.

If this comes to pass, they can elect their Molotov cocktail in four years. There won't be any huge threat to democracy. That's how it's supposed to work.

76591   HydroCabron   2016 Nov 6, 7:29am  

To be fair, I have noticed that when one candidate in an election gets the most votes, they always install that person in power like it's a goddamn dictatorship, rubbing it in the faces of the other candidates and ignoring the objections of their supporters, thereby disenfranchising them. #rigged

76592   Gary Anderson   2016 Nov 6, 9:00am  

I don't see how Trump can overcome women and minority voters with just white men who didn't go to college.

76593   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2016 Nov 6, 9:08am  

Gary Anderson says

I don't see how Trump can overcome women and minority voters with just white men who didn't go to college.

You act like zero women vote for trump.

He consistently polls at 36-41% of the female vote. As for the minority vote he consistently does better than Romney with Hispanics and nearly double Romney among Blacks.

76594   lostand confused   2016 Nov 6, 9:09am  

Gary Anderson says

I don't see how Trump can overcome women and minority voters with just white men who didn't go to college.

I am a "minority" -whatever that means. It is so sad, Martin Luther King made the I have a dream speech -about looking past people's color -and the dems still pigeonhole us by color .

76595   Tenpoundbass   2016 Nov 6, 9:15am  

I think Early voting is an evil invention for the establishment to know how many votes to prepare for Election Day Tuesday.

The provisional votes are the deck of Go Fish cards for them to pull the votes needed. And with Obama imploring even illegal Aliens to get out and become provisional votes because the establishment knows they need them. Then many states now has made it illegal for anyone in line to question those illegal Aliens voting.

America's only hope right now, is for many of the Democrat votes already made are for Trump and the 13% so far undecided and the majority of the Indy voters vote for Trump and overwhelm the Rigged deck.
Because I think the NSA and CIA have the killswitch on the Vote Flipswitch the DNC plans on using, and the establishment knows it. That is why at the eleventh hour they are championing voter fraud on a grand scale as long as it's Democrat votes.

Yesterday some pollster for Trumps campaign was reported in the news that he has been dogged by voter fraud charges. He isn't accused of any voter fraud right now they just wanted to put it out there in the MSM because they weren't reporting the real corruption.

76596   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Nov 6, 1:23pm  

650,000 emails reviewed in a few days: Efficiency Record unmatched.

The Two-tiered justice system continues.

The very fact that Weiner had ANY State Department emails on his machine opens Hillary to charges. Not to mention that Hillary instructed her maid to print classified emails on her behalf. What national security clearance does Hillary's Filipina maid have?

76597   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Nov 6, 1:39pm  

PS Does this mean the FBI is trustworthy, valiant defenders of justice again, and no longer Putin's Racist Agents of Disruption?

76598   Tenpoundbass   2016 Nov 6, 1:57pm  

Of course She's innocent she kilt the man leaking her info that could have testified and his wife.

76599   Strategic Renter   2016 Nov 6, 1:59pm  

Bad news for Hilary. This just proves the corruption at the top and they are very foolish to have forced him to do this.

76600   40c8   2016 Nov 6, 1:59pm  

Thunderlips Russian Agent 0069 says

PS Does this mean the FBI is trustworthy, valiant defenders of justice again, and no longer Putin's Racist Agents of Disruption?

No, the FBI almost never confirms or denies they are investigating anyone, so no, they still fucked up big time. Thunderlips Russian Agent 0069 says

650,000 emails reviewed in a few days: Efficiency Record unmatched.

The Two-tiered justice system continues.

everytime it goes against you, its rigged. just like your hero trump.... Loser assholes both of you!

76601   AllTruth   2016 Nov 6, 2:02pm  

This will backfire on Clinton.

APPEARANCE OF RIGGEDNESS ON STEROIDS.

76602   marcus   2016 Nov 6, 2:04pm  

Tenpoundbass says

Of course She's innocent she kilt the man leaking her info that could have testified and his wife.

Are we supposed to think you believe this ? OR are we supposed to think you look down on the idiots that you would like to get to vote for Trump (for some reason).

76603   Indiana Jones   2016 Nov 6, 2:37pm  

I am sure Comey knew he'd be pushing up some daisies if he did not make this announcement.

76604   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Nov 6, 2:39pm  

40c8 says

everytime it goes against you, its rigged. just like your hero trump.... Loser assholes both of you!

Does this mean Putin had the FBI switch sides again? Or was it the vast right wing conspiracy? Or was it irredeemable deploreables within the FBI?

76605   Ceffer   2016 Nov 6, 2:41pm  

Comey probably figured he wasn't paid enough for the first round of extortion, and now has received appropriate reassurances and compensations.

76606   lostand confused   2016 Nov 6, 2:52pm  

So deleting 33,000 emails after you receive a subpeona from congress is innocent?? Third world -here we come.

76607   Tenpoundbass   2016 Nov 6, 2:57pm  

I get the feeling this Jackass was only fingering her, and he was expecting someone else to do his job, because he CAN'T or he will get fired or Kilt, along with his whole family.
This is OUR fault for not lobbing charges against her.

76608   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2016 Nov 6, 3:46pm  

Trump just spent the last 9 days telling everyone how great Comey is and that Hillary was going to jail. Lol. What's he going to say tomorrow? Will there be an angry 4am tweet tomorrow?

76609   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Nov 6, 4:25pm  

The Democrats just spent the last 9 days telling everyone how Russian Mind Rays or Deploreable Racist Sentiment are controlling the FBI, after praising them to the Echo all Summer and Fall. What will the Democrats say tomorrow? That Putin turned off the Mind Control Satellite hovering in geosynchronous orbit over DC?

Remember, when it goes after the Poster Child of the Corrupt Establishment, no whopper is too great to tell. Because the Very Serious People say so, it's true!

76610   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2016 Nov 6, 4:49pm  

Thunderlips Russian Agent 0069 says

The Democrats just spent the last 9 days telling everyone how Russian Mind Rays or Deploreable Racist Sentiment are controlling the FBI, after praising them to the Echo all Summer and Fall. What will the Democrats say tomorrow? That Putin turned off the Mind Control Satellite hovering in geosynchronous orbit over DC?

Remember, when it goes after the Poster Child of the Corrupt Establishment, no whopper is too great to tell. Because the Very Serious People say so, it's true!

The moderate Democrats said Comey was an honorable man who made a mistake going public. The more partisan ones thought it was egregious and unacceptable. They are emboldened by the lack of new evidence. I imagine that Clinton will let it go if she is elected. She's not like Trump, who would clearly never let it go.

76611   Gary Anderson   2016 Nov 6, 5:15pm  

So, this hurt Clinton, but at least it won't much on 11/8. There must be folks in the FBI who are leaking stuff to the Republicans. That is unacceptable.

76612   Gary Anderson   2016 Nov 6, 5:16pm  

lostand confused says

So deleting 33,000 emails after you receive a subpeona from congress is innocent?? Third world -here we come.

Trump deleted files when courts wanted them. Tie goes to Clinton. She is still ahead in the polls.

76613   Gary Anderson   2016 Nov 6, 5:17pm  

Indiana Jones says

I am sure Comey knew he'd be pushing up some daisies if he did not make this announcement.

How does he know the Republicans won't kill him? Get real.

76614   freespeechforever   2016 Nov 6, 5:34pm  

Hillary is guilty as it gets.

The relevant federal statute regarding accessing, forwarding, taking custody of and disseminating classified documents requires NO INTENT TO DO SO (even though a competent prosecutor could easily prove Hillary had such intent).

As a very famous and effective defense lawyer once said, the threshold for indictment is so low that federal prosecutors "could indict a ham sandwich" if they chose to do so (though Hillary really did break serious federal law).

This is clearly a case of Hillary being treated as if she's above the law.

The politically-motivated, highly partisan DOJ, under Loretta Lynch didn't want to do ANYTHING to hurt Hillcriminal's chances of being elected, so Lynch essentially quashed the whole thing,'using the FBI and Comey as the fall guy.

#RiggedSystem

76615   RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks   2016 Nov 6, 7:13pm  

all this means is Mr. Comey will sell newspaper on the streets when Trump is president.

76616   zzyzzx   2016 Nov 6, 7:19pm  

76617   freespeechforever   2016 Nov 6, 7:24pm  

18 U.S. Code § 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information

(f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

(g) If two or more persons conspire to violate any of the foregoing provisions of this section, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each of the parties to such conspiracy shall be subject to the punishment provided for the offense which is the object of such conspiracy.
(h)
(1) Any person convicted of a violation of this section shall forfeit to the United States, irrespective of any provision of State law, any property constituting, or derived from, any proceeds the person obtained, directly or indirectly, from any foreign government, or any faction or party or military or naval force within a foreign country, whether recognized or unrecognized by the United States, as the result of such violation. For the purposes of this subsection, the term “State” includes a State of the United States, the District of Columbia, and any commonwealth, territory, or possession of the United States.
(2) The court, in imposing sentence on a defendant for a conviction of a violation of this section, shall order that the defendant forfeit to the United States all property described in paragraph (1) of this subsection.
(3) The provisions of subsections (b), (c), and (e) through (p) of section 413 of the Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act of 1970 (21 U.S.C. 853(b), (c), and (e)–(p)) shall apply to—
(A) property subject to forfeiture under this subsection;
(B) any seizure or disposition of such property; and
(C) any administrative or judicial proceeding in relation to such property,
if not inconsistent with this subsection.
(4) Notwithstanding section 524(c) of title 28, there shall be deposited in the Crime Victims Fund in the Treasury all amounts from the forfeiture of property under this subsection remaining after the payment of expenses for forfeiture and sale authorized by law.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 736; Sept. 23, 1950, ch. 1024, title I, § 18, 64 Stat. 1003; Pub. L. 99–399, title XIII, § 1306(a), Aug. 27, 1986, 100 Stat. 898; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147; Pub. L. 103–359, title VIII, § 804(b)(1), Oct. 14, 1994, 108 Stat. 3440; Pub. L. 104–294, title VI, § 607(b), Oct. 11, 1996, 110 Stat. 3511.)

76618   freespeechforever   2016 Nov 6, 7:29pm  

Look at (f) jackass.

Gross negligence is the standard under (f), and each of these sections has a different standard re intent, negligence, etc.

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