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Corona virus (more correctly, Wuhan virus)


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2020 Jan 24, 12:33pm   195,445 views  3,372 comments

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Anyone wants to risk a bet on the eventual number of sick people? Dead people?

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242   Shaman   2020 Feb 26, 11:40am  

Looks like middle eastern immigrants are bringing coronavirus to Europe from Iran.
243   Hircus   2020 Feb 26, 2:04pm  

SF dems see



Then they react like



When they remember SF is like



And so react like:

245   Booger   2020 Feb 26, 4:06pm  

China is asshoe!
247   Heraclitusstudent   2020 Feb 26, 9:28pm  

Heraclitusstudent says
I'll venture a prediction: there will be cases popping up like this in the Bay Area within 2 weeks.

Should have said 2 days: One Individual from Solano County is receiving medical care at UC Davis Medical Center.
Contamination is from unknown origin. Meaning sick people are walking around in CA.
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/california/new-case-of-novel-coronavirus-in-northern-california-cdc/2242792/
248   mell   2020 Feb 26, 9:37pm  

Heraclitusstudent says
Heraclitusstudent says
I'll venture a prediction: there will be cases popping up like this in the Bay Area within 2 weeks.

Should have said 2 days: One Individual from Solano County is receiving medical care at UC Davis Medical Center.
Contamination is from unknown origin. Meaning sick people are walking around in CA.
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/california/new-case-of-novel-coronavirus-in-northern-california-cdc/2242792/


So what? Even in China with the massive spike numbers are falling now. It may very well become a seasonal occurrence, but this whole drama around it is utter bullshit. What's real is the supply chain disruption. 60 people total were diagnosed so far of which only 15 originated in the US - a country of 330 million people. There will be a slight spike followed by a drop-off to seasonal re-occurrence. Meanwhile heart diseases and cancer and car accidents and the flu - currently at its peak - kill millions and nobody cares.
249   mell   2020 Feb 26, 9:42pm  

This year's influenza has already killed over 15000 people in the US alone - get outta here ;)
250   Heraclitusstudent   2020 Feb 26, 9:50pm  

The mortality rate of flu is less than 0.1%, against 2% for that virus. And 20% cases are serious.
251   Misc   2020 Feb 27, 2:37am  

The number of available beds at hospitals is remarkably low, as most beds are in use for other ailments. Even a modest increase in the number of patients means that, yes, just like in China, you'll get a cot at a local high school gym.
252   RC2006   2020 Feb 27, 3:16am  

I heard that infants have been pretty resilient against virus. Wondering in the case of China the 2% mortality has more to do with a comorbidity of age, smoking, respiratory issues, and overall health. Hopefully this virus is more like normal flu for healthy people.
254   WookieMan   2020 Feb 27, 4:28am  

Heraclitusstudent says
The mortality rate of flu is less than 0.1%, against 2% for that virus. And 20% cases are serious.

You're gathering 90% of the data from the Chinese though. So admittedly numbers could be worse, but their health care is likely worse. They very much copy others medical fields/care and then half ass it like their knock off products that suck. You can't compare an apple to a watermelon. What are their death rates for typical influenza? If they're to be believed.....

If the US get 20k cases and the mortality rate is higher than 2%, then maybe, maybe I'd get concerned. Until then, ratings have dropped since impeachment is over, there's no compelling story with the democrats, the economy is doing fine, etc. There's really just nothing going on big story wise, so the media has taken something and gotten overhyped about it. It happens.

TV networks, media companies don't sell positive news and they need to sell something right now. This is a good story for them to run with. Every single real estate broker was telling you in 2006/07 that it was the best time to buy..... just like every time something like this happens the media makes it out to be a plague that is going to wipe out half the world. Believe what you want, but it's undoubtedly overhyped.
255   HeadSet   2020 Feb 27, 6:25am  

Until then, ratings have dropped since impeachment is over, there's no compelling story with the democrats

Notice also, that the Hong Kong protests are out of the news.
257   WookieMan   2020 Feb 27, 8:30am  

Yup. 70+ year old people die. I'd also guess most of them were within a year of death anyway due to other health reasons (cancer, smoking, etc.).

It's the fucking flu and it doesn't even seem to infect the little ones which is a positive and is rarely mentioned. Have a neighbor and friend that lost a 2 year old from influenza. She's a nurse. She's not at all concerned about this. People gotta stop freaking out. Be concerned about supply chain issues, but people dying a year earlier is of minimal concern and that's for only 2% of the population...
258   HeadSet   2020 Feb 27, 8:34am  

Remember that heat wave in France a few years back that killed over 10,000?
259   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Feb 27, 8:35am  

You knew it was coming:

Since the dawn of the Trump era, countless experts have warned that the president's lack of credibility would imperil the country in the event of an emergency.

As the coronavirus outbreak worsens, those fears may be coming true... https://t.co/vFo8MJZV7i

— Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) February 26, 2020


260   HeadSet   2020 Feb 27, 8:40am  

"Let's Call It Trumpvirus"

Yes, and when it passes with no major affects, are we going to give Trump credit for avoiding a catastrophe?
261   WookieMan   2020 Feb 27, 8:41am  

HeadSet says
Remember that heat wave in France a few years back that killed over 10,000?

If anyone is interested in inner city issues, this book is about the heat wave that hit Chicago in '95. It sheds light on cultural issues that aren't politicized. Gives you a better picture through a heat wave what's wrong with inner city society. It's only gotten worse too. https://read.amazon.com/kp/embed?asin=B00VBLO1C0&preview=newtab&linkCode=kpe&ref_=cm_sw_r_kb_dp_m.-vEb4S47B51

I have no comment on the heat wave in France as I don't recall much about it. I rather dislike my interactions with French people as they seem like pieces of shit though, so probably the reason I didn't look into it.
262   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Feb 27, 8:45am  

HeadSet says
Yes, and when it passes with no major affects, are we going to give Trump credit for avoiding a catastrophe?



Nope. Just like the MSM "Forgot" all their doomsday economic predictions... Trump, Brexit, etc.
263   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Feb 27, 8:45am  

Chinese state media continued their efforts this week to mitigate political damage from the coronavirus epidemic by claiming Western concerns about the spread of the disease, and complaints about China’s lack of transparency, are founded in “xenophobia” and “white supremacist racism” reminiscent of the “Yellow Peril” hysteria of the late 19th Century.

“The U.S. travel restrictions on China and criticism of China’s quarantine strategy to contain the COVID-19 have been seen as a racist politicization of the epidemic,” China’s state-run Global Times declared on Wednesday, without demonstrating that anyone other than themselves sees the situation that way.

https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2020/02/27/china-blames-xenophobia-and-white-supremacist-racism-for-coronavirus-fears/

AMERICA! HAS! SUCCESSFURRY! Q'RARTINED US!
264   HeadSet   2020 Feb 27, 8:47am  

I rather dislike my interactions with French people

I used to hate the French also until I was stationed at Le Tube Air Base in southern France during the 1990s. The locals there were very friendly and were very nice to Americans, especially the older French. They remember who pushed the Germans out.
265   WookieMan   2020 Feb 27, 8:55am  

HeadSet says
I rather dislike my interactions with French people

I used to hate the French also until I was stationed at Le Tube Air Base in southern France during the 1990s. The locals there were very friendly and were very nice to Americans, especially the older French. They remember who pushed the Germans out.

Maybe it's just the ones that travel in the Caribbean, Central America or Chicago? That's been my main interaction. No interest in traveling to Europe... ever.... but the wife feels different. We'll see.

There are ass hoe Americans as well, so I don't discount the entire French population. I'm just hesitant with my interactions of someone from France.
268   mell   2020 Feb 27, 9:42am  

Lol. Perfect
269   mell   2020 Feb 27, 9:44am  

This is going to.be over in a few weeks. What a hype. Q1 will be affected though for many companies no doubt.
272   Booger   2020 Feb 27, 2:32pm  

CBOEtrader says
Is corona virus here to save our medicare system?


That and Social Security.
273   RC2006   2020 Feb 27, 2:34pm  

Booger says
CBOEtrader says
Is corona virus here to save our medicare system?


That and Social Security.


Might do both.
274   fdhfoiehfeoi   2020 Feb 27, 2:34pm  

My daughter supposedly contracted swine flu when she was only a few weeks old. She recovered just fine in a couple days like it was any other sickness.

I don't know of a single person who's gotten any of these flu's, much less died from them. The only people who should be worried, should already be worried because they have compromised immune systems, and will die regardless. Eating garbage, not exercising or sleeping, and relying on miracle pills and injections, you had this coming...
275   Heraclitusstudent   2020 Feb 27, 3:13pm  

NuttBoxer says
I don't know of a single person who's gotten any of these flu's, ... you had this coming...


Yeah... people who died from the flu must have had it coming.
No other possible explanation....
276   mell   2020 Feb 27, 3:16pm  

Kids are usually very resilient. It's the elderly that get wiped out. The flu is serious. The CV will become serious if it can spread like the flu. China showed it can be contained so I don't expect infection numbers anywhere near the flu, just a tiny fraction thereof. At least with strong containment measures.
277   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Feb 27, 4:02pm  

Nothing will stop a virus from spreading than making sure your border with a third world country with awful public health is wide open as possible.

Coronavirus poses a serious health, diplomatic, & economic threat, & we must be prepared to confront it head-on. So I’m introducing a bill to transfer all funding for @realDonaldTrump's racist border wall to @HHSGov & @USAID to combat coronavirus. https://t.co/8IEhBWRjeL pic.twitter.com/9oAF0A2lGT

— Elizabeth Warren (@SenWarren) February 27, 2020
278   WookieMan   2020 Feb 27, 5:11pm  

Heraclitusstudent says
NuttBoxer says
I don't know of a single person who's gotten any of these flu's, ... you had this coming...


Yeah... people who died from the flu must have had it coming.
No other possible explanation....

Learning from the media. Nice manipulation on the quote.

NuttBoxer is 1,000% correct in his statement. I'd venture to guess most people dying from this are fat, old, lazy, smokers.... Not that they deserve to die, but WTF did anyone expect? It's killing the unhealthy. I don't wish death upon anyone, but to be surprised by it? Come on man.
279   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2020 Feb 27, 5:20pm  

mell says
Kids are usually very resilient.


Kids immune systems don't overreact.
280   rdm   2020 Feb 27, 6:01pm  

WookieMan says
I'd venture to guess most people dying from this are fat, old, lazy, smokers.

Age, heart disease, diabetes and cancer are what they have determined so far to be risk factors for death. Not much different than the flu other than flu is also serious in the very young who don't appear to be at risk for death with the Covid-19 virus

This is more contagious than flu and more deadly than flu, and though flu kills a lot of people a large portion of the population has some protection from vaccines or resistance from previous infections. This dramatically slows down the spread. As far as can be determined there is no or very little resistance to the virus, though people can be a symptomatic or have very mild symptoms.

I think it highly unlikely it can be contained, I would guess it is far worse in China than is reported, the Chinese lie like dogs. To be truthful, particularly because of the asymptomatic population, it might be best to just let it go wild rather than try to contain it. Focus on treatment and isolation for the seriously at risk populations, and getting a vaccine and anti viral drug to treat it developed ASAP.

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