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bgamall4 says

do you know who Wesley Clark is?

The guy who ran in the 2004 Democrat Primaries against John Kerry?

Why would I watch the video? It's not from a credible source.

FortWayne says

That watch is correct at least twice a day.

Actually, the watch is correct 64 times a day because there are 32 non-overlapping time zones on any day of the year.

Some time zones have 15, 30, or 45 minute offsets in addition to an integer hour offset. One timezone has a +13 hour offset, but that overlaps with the -11 hour offset with a calendar day change, so it would not affect the correctness of the watch.

Remember, there is no such thing as a "standard" timezone. The recognized timezones are established by nation states using a temporal offset of Universal Time Coordinates (UTC), and a rule of when to apply an additional offset for Daylight Savings Time (DST).

So, in principle, the number of non-overlapping timezones recognized internationally at any time would be limited by the number of recognized countries. Luckily, most countries don't feel the need to have their own timezones, although there are exceptions. Yeah, I'm talking to you Kiritimati, a.k.a. Christmas Island.

That island changed its timezone offset to UTC+14 just so that it could be "the first nation to bath in the sunlight of the new millennium" instead of the last. Worst still, the dumb ass marketers got the year wrong. The millennium began in 2001, not 2000 because the Gregorian Calendar, like the Cesarian Calendar that preceded it, does not have a year zero. Although since most people preferred to believe that the turn of the century happened on the year 2000, maybe we should have a year zero. That way, the year 2000 would be the first year of the 20th century because we're also going to have a zeroth century too for consistency, biatches!

Oh, and don't even get me started on October 1582. I think I'm the only person who has ever written a calendar control that handles that month correctly.

FortWayne says

Walmart business plan is simple. Come into an area and dump products at break even or less until everyone around goes out of business.

Selling for less than cost to run competition out of business is called price dumping and I believe it's illegal in most states.

Dan8267 says

Perishable, yes. Fresh, no.

I don't know if it's the GMO, pesticides, or what, but the food section of the Walmart in Irvine has some super fresh produce. It's unreal how fresh it looks.

Dan8267 says

Selling for less than cost to run competition out of business is called price dumping and I believe it's illegal in most states.

Not a problem for Wal-Mart. They have enough money to buy the governments of most states.

I wish my last car crash was like this recent silver 'crash'. Soooo glad I stuck to my guns and kept SLW... Wish I had dry powder to add back in late June.

bgamall4 says

theoakman says

ahh yes, there's no way Bin Laden can equip the towers with that many explosives, yet somehow, the U.S. government managed to do it.

Bin Laden didn't have George Bush's brother, Marvin, in charge of security. Look it up.

Just out of curiosity do you have hemorrhoids or are you a perfect asshole? Bush's brother was a director at a security company called Securacom that lost the WTC contract in 1998. He left Securacom in June 2000. This is public record.

Since you are far to stupid to understand how corporate governance works I will let you in on a secret. Directors don't have any operational responsibility. They set policy. No matter how much you want to believe it he wasn't pointing security camera's in the WTC in 2001 even if he were still with the company and even if the company still was doing work for the WTC.

It's very disturbing to think that you are actually walking around somewhere in America without adult supervision.

bgamall4 says

That is what the video is about if your mind is frozen, which it is.

My mind is frozen? What are you talking about?

Wonder if he has a financial connection to the military industrial complex(cruise missile manufactures)?
Maybe we should ask the same question about all the war pumpers.

bgamall4 says

FortWayne says

If you think this is a conspiracy theory than you are not paying attention. Why would our government spend billions and suffer PR disasters over this? What is their motivation? They sure as hell don't give a damn about a few dead muslims... but personal gain they do care about, hence this war is about profit (oil).

No, it is a conspiracy theory. The conspiracy is to take out every government in opposition to Israel in the middle east. That includes Syria and Iran. The lies about chemical weapons mirror the lies about WMD when confronting Iraq. We as a nation lie so much we have no clue where the truth exists anymore.

Where do you get this nonsense from? The US liberated Kuwait. Kuwait loves Israel. Oh hang on, it doesn't. The US deposed Saddam. Iraq loves Israel. Oh, hang on... etc. etc.

Glass-Steagall will be reinstated and all bank regulations will be restored to the state of regulation extant in 1972.

Bring back autos-da-fé, illumination by candlelight, and bloodletting while you're at it.

Such regulations are from a time of suffering, screams, eternal night, and pestilence in our land. No one wants to go back to that!

Dan8267 says

Selling for less than cost to run competition out of business is called price dumping and I believe it's illegal in most states.

You really think that is enforced? It would be difficult to prove without getting all UP IN the books. And we know the bigger/richer the corporation, the more likely the lawyers and accountants have money & means to prevent that.

Vicente says

You really think that is enforced?

No idea. I just said it was illegal most places.

I suppose it could be provable with large companies like Walmart, which are exactly the companies that would profit by doing it. But I'd suspect that our government would just slap Walmart's wrist at the most if it did catch that company or any large corporation price dumping.

bgamall4 says

Bigsby says

Where do you get this nonsense from? The US liberated Kuwait. Kuwait loves Israel. Oh hang on, it doesn't. The US deposed Saddam. Iraq loves Israel. Oh, hang on... etc. etc.

I am talking about forced regime change you idiot.

Oh right, so according to you the US didn't force regime change in Iraq. And you call me an idiot.

i'm pretty certain that home prices will continue to go up for the rest of the year. nothing to discuss now but bearish wishful thinking that will never come true.

BTW, i have not been wrong ONCE ever since i turned bullish. just saying.

with great confidence, i will revisit this thread after NYE celebration.

bgamall4 says

Bigsby says

Oh right, so according to you the US didn't force regime change in Iraq. And you call me an idiot.

I have no idea what you are talking about. Of course the US forced regime change for reasons that were lies. There were no WMD's.

Now the Republicans want regime change based on attacks that are not proven. And there is evidence that western corporations were talking about a false flag against Syria.

What do you mean you have no idea what I'm talking about? Look at the bloody post you wrote that regime change response to. Give me strength.

bgamall4 says

Bigsby says

What do you mean you have no idea what I'm talking about? Look at the bloody post you wrote that regime change response to.

Oh, this? "Where do you get this nonsense from? The US liberated Kuwait. Kuwait loves Israel. Oh hang on, it doesn't. The US deposed Saddam. Iraq loves Israel. Oh, hang on... etc. etc."

What is your point? Are you implying that Iraq is liberated? Tell it to the 100 thousand Iraq people who died in the war. And if anything, there will always be tribal and ethnic strife there.

They will find a cause, and it likely will not be supporting the United States.

Bgamall (paraphrasing): the US wants to change the regimes in the region to make them friendly to Israel.
Me (paraphrasing): You mean like Kuwait and Iraq? (which changed but aren't friendly to Israel)
Bgamall (verbatim): I am talking about forced regime change you idiot.
Me (paraphrasing): So Iraq.....?
Bgamall (paraphrasing): Oh the US didn't liberate Iraq.
Me: ????, but they bloody well forced a regime change, did they not?

Do you get my point now?

freak80 says

Not a problem for Wal-Mart. They have enough money to buy the governments of most states.

....That's why you should invest in WMT. And the cigarette companies for that matter (PM, MO, etc)... You think the gubmint is gonna kill that golden goose that brings in all those taxes from the poor nicotene-addicted taxpayers?

False Flag? The question of whether a nerve agent was used on civilians is not up for debate. If the Syrian government isn't responsible, and it isn't somehow the Syrian rebels, there NEEDS to be a world war. If the conspiracy theory is true, allies have crossed the line and a global correction needs to be made. There are times when pacifism is beyond foolish. If you find evidence that US government interests are responsible (even by allowing it), then it is time for revolution.

What are the motivations of the UN inspectors here? Chemical agents have a shelf life. Who is making them and storing them if not the Syrian government?

If you are going to make a conspiracy claim, think about the appropriate response. Talking it over cordially is ridiculous. Just cheer for the Russians and Chinese to kick our ass.

It would be the responsibility of the Russians and Chinese to prove a conspiracy theory. If they can't, they have to step back. This is the UN, not the USA. They had better have some info from inside the Syrian government, because it is about to be removed. The trouble is that the CIA's track record, from a layman's point of view, seems lame indeed. What good to us is an unstable Eqypt? Let alone Syria. Inaction on this would send what message exactly?

Someone is storing nerve agent in Syria. It must be found and destroyed, regardless. Right?

This is all very disturbing. The happenings of the last 12 years, the wars we've entered and fought, the false flag attacks, it's all making me give credence to the people saying "watch out, it's not what it seems!"

Even if it is exactly what they say, and the government of Syria is gassing te al quaida sponsored rebellion there, I don't think it's worth a world war to "right this wrong." It's not even worth a couple of cruise missiles. Let the Muslims sort out their own problems. If they weren't dying in gas attacks, they'd be blowing themselves up. What's the difference? I don't see how this is our responsibility. Oil, money, and power must be the true motivations of our Dear Leaders.

Clearly the United States must go to war whenever possible, as this has always changed the world for the better and advanced our interests.

Killing people with chemicals is immoral, while killing them with bullets and shrapnel is not.

As a Constitutional Conservative with no faith in government, I see no inconsistency in having the State Department and Pentagon run elaborate, poorly-defined missions with no exit strategy, because neither is a government organization.

God Bless America! Jesus wants us to bomb the appropriate brown people, because that's what He preached on Earth.

Perhaps we should send the Syrian rebels some Gatling guns!

Push a button. Send the missiles off to some far away land. We all watch Dancing with the Stars. We all watch Miley Cyrus. We don't hear the explosions. We don't see the blown apart people. We don't see the burned alive people. We cheer America, as we reach for another latte.

sbh says

Let the deep pockets have their way. I don't understand you. It's perfectly legal to sell at a loss. Why do you hate freedom?

;-)

I can say without a sherd of doubt abut my zip code 95124- bordering LG.
Sold in last 7 days ( the ones in contract with higher mortgage rates ) were still selling way over asking prices .

Think how interesting life would be
If in couplets speak would we

How to speak haiku?
Autotranslation we need
A good job for Dan

In the heat he sweats
Rents upon rents he collects
Glory holes' fellates

TODAY
Bob Shiller Warns "None Of This Is Real; The Housing Market Has Become Very Speculative"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-27/bob-shiller-warns-none-real-housing-market-has-become-very-speculative

bgamall4 says

The company is owned by Rothschild, Cheney and Murdoch.

Except its not. The company in question is "Genie energy" and appears to be publically traded, however:

"Genie's founder, chairman and controlling shareholder is Howard Jonas. Claude Pupkin is the company's CEO, and Avi Goldin is its CFO. Geoffrey Rochwarger is Genie's vice chairman." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genie_Energy

One of those names does sound Jewish/Israeli and as one would expect its the CFO.

The men you say own the company are on a "stratigic advisory board" of the company according to Wikipedia.

I know it does hurt the flow of the story to get the correct
facts but then again facts never stopped a good internet conspiracy theory.

bgamall4 says

No, if you put all the evidence together it is a certainty that our government was involved.

.....when discussed by a tiny group of like-minded individuals....

I'm sure you 'celebrated diversity' in all aspects of that argument (not)... PFFFT.

bgamall4 says

As far as 93, I really don't know.

....That's mighty convenient, eh? Basically the same group of psychos in '93 finished the job in '01, but you 'really don't know' ??.... You can't connect the dots from the first WTC bombing to the 2nd, but can go out of your way to say that 'neo-cons' are to blame for 9/11? That's all I really need to now about you. I see using the 'ignore feature' in the near future...

bgamall4 says

I said to leave the word Troofer at the door. If you want to debate, just debate. Don't insult, because that is all you have. You attack the messenger when you can't stop the message.

.... Soooo, when you say 'don't insult', does that include mocking my handle of Average Bear, as well as my logic? You are indeed a thin-skinned, hypocrite. I wouldn't read your eBook, articles or any other rubbish you suggest.

So, as far as the '93 bombing and its blantantly obvious connection to the group of terrorists responsible to 9/11, you'd rather not debate that, because, well, you 'just don't know'...(your words).....

classic.

Who are the good guys, exactly?

"On 8 April, three war correspondents were killed when an American tank fired a shell at the suite on the 15th floor. "

"When the news of the Palestine Hotel attack first came, the American command said nothing until it emerged that the French TV channel, France 3, had filmed the tank aiming and firing.

"But the most telling evidence is that France 3's cameraman had started filming some minutes before the tank opened fire, and his camera's sound track records no shots whatsoever."

"All three organisations concluded that the Pentagon was determined to deter western correspondents from reporting any war from the 'enemy' side; would view such journalism in Iraq as activity of 'military significance', and might well bomb the area. This view was reinforced in the early days of the war in Iraq, when the Pentagon wrote officially to Al-Jazeera asking it to remove its correspondents from Baghdad. Downing Street made the same request to the BBC."

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2003/jun/15/broadcasting.Iraqandthemedia

He isn't there to inform, he is there to sell the war.

bgamall4 says

You are lying:

According to its present CEO, Barry McDaniel, the company had an ongoing contract to handle security at the World Trade Center "up to the day the buildings fell down."

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/911security.html

And remember his mother saying Marvin Bush was in New York on 9/11?

And his replacement's first day on the job was 9/11 and he died.

Wow, you managed to find an article from someone equally intelligence challenged and having even less knowledge of corporations. A substantial achievement. Marvin Bush was a principal in Statfor? Corporations don't have principals. High schools and grade schools have principals. Corporations have directors, corporate officers, and shareholders. That should have tipped you off right away that nutcase.com wasn't the best source of information.

Since graduation 8th grade wasn't a life priority for you I will have to educate you on some of the things you missed. I'll type really slowly. Statfor is a public corporation. That means they sell stock to the public. There is a government agency called the SEC. They are in charge of public corporations. All public corporations must fill reports with the SEC detailing what the company is doing. Like who they sell to, who works tthere, etc., etc.. These reports are available to the public. That means you and me.

I'm lying about what?

Marvin Bush was a director and resigned June 2000? Try again.:
"Marvin Bush was reelected annually to Securacom's board of directors from 1993 through 1999. His final reelection was on May 25, 1999, for July 1999 to June 2000. Throughout, he also served on the company's Audit Committee and Compensation Committee, and his stock holdings grew during the period. Directors had options to purchase 25,000 shares of stock annually. In 1996, Bush acquired 53,000 shares at 52 cents per share. Shares in the 1997 IPO sold at $8.50. Records since 2000 no longer list Bush as a shareholder."

Directors don't make operational decisions? Sorry, but they don't. Directors are there do give direction to the company not operate it. If you aren't mentally capable of understanding this then I can't help you.

Stratfor was finished with WTC contract in 1999. Let's see what Stratfor's SEC filings say about that. Here is 98 and 99.

"Revenues increased by 108.6% from $5.8 million in 1996 to $12.1 million in 1997. The increase was due to work completed for new clients and an increase in work completed on existing projects. Revenues from the World Trade Center project, which commenced in October 1996, increased from $1.6 million in 1996 to $6.6 million in 1997"
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1037453/0000925328-98-000030.txt

"Revenues decreased by 45% from $12.1 million in 1997 to $6.6 million in 1998. The decrease was due to the closeout of the World Trade Center Project."
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1037453/0000925328-99-000032.txt

The so the SEC filings for Statfor show no income from the WTC after 1997. Were they working pro bono?

Stratfor wasn't in charge of security ever. Again from the SEC filing.
"The contractors for the permanent security system are E.J. Electric and Electronic Systems Associates, both of New York. Securacom, Woodcliff Lakes, N.J., is responsible for system integration."

The word contractor here means designing and installing security systems. Not operating. I don't think I can even begin to explain what system integration means to you so I won't try.

Marvin Bush didn't have a replacement because he was gone from Startfor in June 2000.

Do you have any legitimate source for the CEO's quote other than nutcase.com says so? I've never seen one.

John O’Neill was head of security for the WTC. He started on August 23rd. So Sept 11th was not the first day on the job.

Absolutely useless to type any of this. I will say however that dealing with bgmal4 is the best cure for insomia I've found to date.

Recent Dow day is Tuesday, August 27, 2013 __ Level is 94.4

No theyre not; houses arent money.

Kerry; newest tool of the War Machine.
What the hell happens to these people?

bgamall4 says

David Losh says

So will we invade with Obama at the helm? I don't think so. He might box them in, but getting boots off the ground is what got Obama elected.

That is correct. Israel, UK, France are hot for war, but Obama knows better. I hope he sticks to his principles on this. America and her soldiers cannot afford another big war, nor can we take the change that Russia will make a stand in Syria. I believe Russia will do just that.

The UK and France are incapable of conducting a ground war in Syria. They are not 'hot for war.' They have, however discussed arming the opposition, which even you may be able to perceive is not the same thing.