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What propels Bernie despite media bias?


               
2016 Mar 14, 2:38pm   4,822 views  23 comments

by uomo_senza_nome_0   follow (0)  

http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2016/03/14/has-bernie-sanders-been-underestimated/bernie-sanders-had-to-overcome-media-consensus-around-hillary-clinton

To combat frontrunner bias — and give a truer sense of the strength of an insurgent like Bernie Sanders — the news media should do its best to downplay the importance of the invisible primary until the actual ones have gotten underway.

http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2016/03/14/has-bernie-sanders-been-underestimated/publics-disgust-with-the-democratic-party-propels-sanders

Democrats habitually brush off economic despair with references to “globalization” and “technology,” as though their complicated free-trade deals were the unknowable doings of the Invisible Hand Itself . The problem is not changing the economic system, they say, it is adjusting ourselves to the changes sweeping the world. When they look at inequality, they see not economic failure but individual failure, usually having to do with education, a subject of pious reverence for the professional class. You're falling because you didn't study hard enough or you didn't go to a good school or you majored in the wrong subject.

What Bernie Sanders represents is the public's growing disgust with this kind of liberalism and, hopefully, its final repudiation.

#politics

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13   bob2356   @   2016 Mar 15, 6:27am  

Ironman says

Show me where he's shown leadership, where he has managed groups of people. Show me how he has created long lasting jobs. What permanent accomplishments has he achieved for the residents of Vermont?

Hell, Bernie wants Universal Health Care for all, yet he wasn't instrumental in getting it to fly in Vermont and it crashed and berned, yet somehow you Bernie supporters think he'll get it done in the complete country.... Really??

Maybe you should read up on Bernie as mayor of burlington. He turned a city that was pretty much an industrial wasteland that didn't even have a supermarket into one that is now consistently rated as one of the top small cities to live. He worked very well with the local business leaders and community leaders to accomplish this and was widely admired by local business and the community for his accomplishments that truly transformed burlington. But hey don't let facts confuse you.

To bad you don't understand even the most fundamental aspects of government or how it works. Bernie is a US Senator. US senators vote on federal programs, they don't get state level programs up and running. They can vote on federal level programs that help their state, but they can't do anything about programs that a specific to one state at the state level only.

I'm always amazed that you find a politician not lining their pockets while fucking over their constituents a character flaw. Right wing nuts have a very different value system.

Not a bernie endorsement, just pointing out that as usual you don't know what you are talking about.

14   uomo_senza_nome_0   @   2016 Mar 15, 6:28am  

dodgerfanjohn says

Annecdotal, but relevant I think.

Interesting anecdotes. Look, I'm sure there are free-loaders in any society. But is free-loading the major problem in this country? the facts on the ground is that the level of income and wealth inequality in this country is too large to ignore. And note, the wealth inequality is not an accident, it is a systemic problem. The economy is rigged.

HydroCabron says

They voted on abortion and guns, not jobs. The voted to abolist unions. They got what they voted for. They deserve to get it, good and hard.

Distractions, diversions, bait and switch.

15   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   @   2016 Mar 15, 6:52am  

uomo_senza_nome_0 says

Interesting anecdotes. Look, I'm sure there are free-loaders in any society. But is free-loading the major problem in this country? the facts on the ground is that the level of income and wealth inequality in this country is too large to ignore. And note, the wealth inequality is not an accident, it is a systemic problem. The economy is rigged.

Except the media and dem focus is ONLY on the inequality with absolutely zero concern with why it exists at all, which would shine a huge negative light on Obama, which I suppose is a no no since it would make the first black president look terrible(funny how it comes full circle to political correctness).

Even Bernie only offers solutions. He does not publicly question what led to terrible policies that grossly exacerbated the income inequality matter. Hell he won't even attack his opponent on her biggest weaknesses.

So yeah income inequality, but let's not focus on monetary policy that created incentive for passive investments thereby lack of job creation. I.e. screw the middle class while letting the wealthy get wealthier, courtesy Obama.

16   Done   @   2016 Mar 15, 7:05am  

dodgerfanjohn says

Except the media and dem focus is ONLY on the inequality with absolutely zero concern with why it exists at all, which would shine a huge negative light on Obama, which I suppose is a no no since it would make the first black president look terrible(funny how it comes full circle to political correctness).

Even Bernie only offers solutions. He does not publicly question what led to terrible policies that grossly exacerbated the income inequality matter. Hell he won't even attack his opponent on her biggest weaknesses.

So yeah income inequality, but let's not focus on monetary policy that created incentive for passive investments thereby lack of job creation. I.e. screw the middle class while letting the wealthy get wealthier, courtesy Obama.

Absolutely true.....

17   tatupu70   @   2016 Mar 15, 7:12am  

dodgerfanjohn says

Except the media and dem focus is ONLY on the inequality with absolutely zero concern with why it exists at all, which would shine a huge negative light on Obama, which I suppose is a no no since it would make the first black president look terrible(funny how it comes full circle to political correctness).

Even Bernie only offers solutions. He does not publicly question what led to terrible policies that grossly exacerbated the income inequality matter. Hell he won't even attack his opponent on her biggest weaknesses.

So yeah income inequality, but let's not focus on monetary policy that created incentive for passive investments thereby lack of job creation. I.e. screw the middle class while letting the wealthy get wealthier, courtesy Obama.

Well, Bernie absolutely focuses on the issues that cause inequality--he just disagrees with you on what those issues are. And he's right.

18   uomo_senza_nome_0   @   2016 Mar 15, 7:17am  

dodgerfanjohn says

with absolutely zero concern with why it exists at all, which would shine a huge negative light on Obama, which I suppose is a no no since it would make the first black president look terrible(funny how it comes full circle to political correctness).

Depends on your source for news consumption.
If you drink the kool-aid offered by CNN, MSNBC and Fox - of course you will not see it.

State of economy:
http://wallstreetonparade.com/2016/01/state-of-the-union-obama-plays-pope-gundlach-plays-realist/

Civil liberties:
https://theintercept.com/2016/03/08/nobody-knows-the-identity-of-the-150-people-killed-by-u-s-in-somalia-but-most-are-certain-they-deserved-it/

Banking reform:
http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/2014/01/matt-taibbi-asks-why-obamas-regulatory.html
http://billmoyers.com/segment/neil-barofsky-on-the-need-to-tackle-banking-reform/

19   anonymous   2016 Mar 15, 7:34am  

Many of Bernie supporters are younger, and not subject to the kind of brainwashing that the older folk in this country are, so media bias doesn't matter.

There's also the intelligence gap. All of the Trump and Hillary supporters seem to be very stupid people, while many of us Bernie supporters are highly intelligent.

Just look at Patnet as example. All the posters that post anti-Bernie stuff, are standing in the knee deep part of the shallow end of the gene pool, wearing their swimmies. There's a lot of stupid in this country

20   uomo_senza_nome_0   @   2016 Mar 15, 7:45am  

errc says

There's a lot of stupid in this country

You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the state houses, the city halls. They got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies, so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying. Lobbying to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I’ll tell you what they don’t want. They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well-informed, well-educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. That’s against their interests ... - George Carlin

21   Shaman   @   2016 Mar 15, 8:05am  

I like Bernie too, but he's not as ragey as Trump and he is fine with bringing in a Muslipocalypse of rapeugees. So yah I've made my decision.

22   Dan8267   @   2016 Mar 15, 9:57am  

uomo_senza_nome_0 says

What propels Bernie despite media bias?

The media finds the Clintons to be more profitable for them. Bernie is boring and has bad hair. Fewer people will watch news about him.

23   Strategist   @   2016 Mar 15, 10:00am  

Dan8267 says

uomo_senza_nome_0 says

What propels Bernie despite media bias?

The media finds the Clintons to be more profitable for them. Bernie is boring and has bad hair. Fewer people will watch news about him.

Except for Trump, they are all boring.

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