The Destruction of Trust In The CDC and Public Health Establishment Is Now Complete

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2021 Aug 12, 12:36am   52,303 views  328 comments

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The new mask recommendations are a disgraceful debacle, doomed to fail...again

As soon as politicians, media members and incompetent and terrified “experts” became ideologically committed to ineffective interventions, they could never end.

The CDC has been the most reliable and consistent contributor to destructive and functionally useless mask recommendations. They’ve used unconscionably bad, dangerously incompetent and misleading “studies,” along with hilariously useless “hairdresser” examples to “prove” mask efficacy. Finally though, after throwing out their own pre-pandemic planning documents to promote a policy with no demonstrable benefits, the CDC displayed confidence in the “safe and effective” vaccines and removed their useless mask guidelines just two and a half months ago.

And yet. It’s all happening. The CDC flip flopped again. Masks are back.

Many of us arguing against lockdowns and masks and other related and equally ineffective “mitigations” have been pointing out for months now that the CDC has been unbelievably bad at their literal one job. We’ve been pointing out that the CDC’s credibility has been irreparably damaged based on their demonstrable incompetence and ever changing messaging with unchanging certainty. But no one, and I mean no one, could have foreseen that the death blow to the CDC’s credibility would come from the CDC itself.

I guess it shouldn’t be as surprising as it is that they put the final nail in their own coffin, but somehow their devotion to pseudoscience never ceases to amaze.

Bringing back masks is the end. It has to be. They were unequivocal in their assertions that the available vaccines were remarkably effective at preventing infections and transmission, symptomatic illness, severe cases and ultimately deaths.

Yesterday’s announcement is completely incompatible with their previous statements and should be an inescapable disaster for the country’s trust in “public health” and what the CDC, Fauci and others laughably refer to as “science.”

So let’s go over this unfolding debacle!

April 1
INTELLIGENCER HEADLINE: “CDC Data Suggests Vaccinated Don’t Carry, Can’t Spread Virus”
Got that? No hemming and hawing, no uncertainty, no “don’t spread the virus as much,” it literally says that the vaccinated CAN NOT SPREAD THE VIRUS. CAN NOT. It’s not possible for them to spread it, that’s what the “data” says.

Here’s a direct quote from the CDC director, Dr. Rochelle Walensky:

“Vaccinated people do not carry the virus — they don’t get sick,” Dr. Rochelle Walensky, director of the CDC, told MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow on Tuesday. That’s “not just in the clinical trials, but it’s also in real-world data.”

They do not carry the virus and do not get sick. Focus on the “they do not carry the virus” part for a second. If vaccinated people can’t carry it, how can they spread it?

They can’t! That’s what the CDC says:

Walensky was referring to a new CDC study that suggests those fully inoculated with the vaccines produced by Moderna and Pfizer don’t transmit the virus.

So naturally,

“The authorized vaccines are the key tool that will help bring an end to this devastating pandemic.”

They are the key tool. Masks used to be, of course, but now vaccines will end the pandemic. Let’s keep that in mind. ...

July 27
CNBC Headline: “CDC reverses indoor mask policy, saying fully vaccinated people and kids should wear them indoors”
There it is. The destruction of any remaining shreds of credibility the CDC and Fauci had left.

So what was the justification for this dramatic shift? The delta variant! The same variant that Fauci said the vaccines did “very well” against. ...

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228   Patrick   2022 Nov 30, 7:24pm  


CDC Knew Covid Shots Damage Heart but Covered It Up ...

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) knew that COVID-19 shots damage recipients’ hearts and cause other serious complications but chose to cover up the information, bombshell documents unsealed under a court order have revealed.

The CDC was forced to hand over documents and data following a November 14 court order by Judge Robert Pitman.

The judge ordered the data to be made public following a Freedom of Information Act request from the Informed Consent Action Network.

The federal health agency has been withholding the data that shows adverse reactions to the vaccinations among those who received them.

Data released under the court order shows that a staggering 1 in 3 among the earliest populations to get vaccinated reported needing medical care, missing school or work, or they were unable to “perform normal daily activities” after receiving the shots.

The information was held in the CDC’s v-safe database.

V-safe is a safety monitoring system that lets people report any adverse reactions to the CDC after getting a COVID-19 vaccine.

The unsealed files revealed that the CDC knew that the shots caused damage to the heart tissue, blood clots, and strokes.

However, the data shows that the CDC intentionally left out questions regarding these serious side effects from its v-safe survey. ...

Among the 10 million-plus users of the agency’s v-safe active monitoring smartphone app through July — 8.5 million of whom signed up between December 2020 and April 2021, before all adults were eligible for COVID vaccines — nearly 8% said they required medical care after receiving the vaccines, according to Just the News.

For patients aged 3 and older needing such care, nearly 3 in 4 couldn’t rely on telehealth visits.

They required urgent care (48%), emergency room (15%) or hospitalization (10%).
229   Misc   2022 Nov 30, 8:31pm  

So ????????

Is anyone going to have a criminal investigation ????????????

Criminal charges brought forth ??????

Nothing is going to happen.
230   Patrick   2022 Dec 1, 11:39am  


U.S. — As distrust in experts reaches record highs across the country, many experts are issuing a dire warning that if you stop listening to them it will make them feel sad.

"We cannot stress enough just how serious this is," said Harvard Sociologist Marv Werdleskeez, an expert on experts. "If people stop unquestionably believing every single thing experts say, experts' feelings will be very hurt. Then they might lose their confidence and retire from being experts. This will leave us with no more experts and everyone will die."

According to a survey of experts nationwide, 90% of experts believe it would be very terrible if everyone stopped believing them. The other 10% said they would jump off a cliff. Sources familiar with the impending crisis say we are running out of time to start believing the experts before it's too late. "Lives are at stake," said Werdleskeez. "If we don't salvage the self-esteem of the expert class soon, it could be catastrophic."

At publishing time, several experts disagreed that the "expert crisis" was really a crisis, leading to them being immediately demoted from being experts.
231   Patrick   2022 Dec 1, 12:00pm  

Trust in most American institutions has been destroyed by the maliciousness/incompetence of the CDC, FBI, Democratic Party etc.

They did it to themselves. It's not China's doing.
232   Patrick   2022 Dec 1, 12:38pm  


Rob Schneider

The Tuskegee experiment was not an experiment,
It was CDC sponsored torture and murder. The participants were NEVER told that they were deliberately given syphilis so they gave it to their families as well. These poor people were not ‘doing a sacrifice’ they were BEING sacrificed

Clifton Duncan.
Nov 30
This is one of the most disgusting fucking things I have ever read.

Don't ever talk shit to me about not trusting these people, ever again.

233   richwicks   2022 Dec 1, 2:24pm  

Patrick says


Rob Schneider

The Tuskegee experiment was not an experiment,
It was CDC sponsored torture and murder. The participants were NEVER told that they were deliberately given syphilis so they gave it to their families as well. These poor people were not ‘doing a sacrifice’ they were BEING sacrificed

Clifton Duncan.
Nov 30
This is one of the most disgusting fucking things I have ever read.

Don't ever talk shit to me about not trusting these people, ever again.

The Tuskegee "trial" (or whatever you want to call it) was run by the Tuskegee University - an ALL BLACK COLLEGE at the time.


It's not black versus white, it's sociopaths versus the rest of us. I really think that higher education engenders sociopathic tendencies and I say this as a person with an EE degree. I'm a VLSI designer, by education.
234   Undoctored   2022 Dec 1, 9:14pm  

I think the Tuskegee experiment is a limited hangout fake admission of guilt. Note that the “experiment” consisted of withholding treatment, so in the end it promotes the medical establishment as necessary to health, and how important it is to “treat” the “underserved” communities. Let’s see the CDC talk about how wrong they were to promote spraying people with DDT.
235   RWSGFY   2022 Dec 2, 8:44am  

Undoctored says

I think the Tuskegee experiment is a limited hangout fake admission of guilt. Note that the “experiment” consisted of withholding treatment, so in the end it promotes the medical establishment as necessary to health, and how important it is to “treat” the “underserved” communities. Let’s see the CDC talk about how wrong they were to promote spraying people with DDT.

Is DDT harmful for people? I thought it was banned because it was making some bird's species eggs soft, not for healths effects on humans.
237   Onvacation   2022 Dec 5, 5:05pm  

Has this man actually cut his dick off?
238   Patrick   2022 Dec 5, 7:00pm  

Wow, the number of babies killed by this is off the charts.

How can anyone at the CDC live with themselves? They should all get boosted, over and over.
240   richwicks   2022 Dec 5, 7:21pm  

Onvacation says

Has this man actually cut his dick off?

He won't say. He claims that's personal, and really, it is.

The criticism of Richard Levine shouldn't be that he transitioned, it's that he pulled his elderly mother out of a nursing home while people who has sars-cov2-19 were placed in nursing homes. The fact that "she" has transitioned, is a distraction.
241   GNL   2022 Dec 6, 3:25am  

richwicks says

The fact that "she" has transitioned, is a distraction.

I don't think so. "It" is mentally sick and has no place being in a position to tell others about health.
242   Patrick   2022 Dec 8, 7:33pm  


CDC Had Direct Access to Big Tech Censorship Tools to Control Covid Narrative

The U.S Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Census Bureau had direct access to Big Tech companies’ censorship tools, which were set up to allow government officials to control the Covid pandemic narrative online, newly unsealed emails have revealed.

Emails between an employee at the CDC and Twitter reveal that at least one CDC staff member and the US Census Bureau had access to Twitter’s dedicated “Partner Support Portal.”

The portal allows approved government officials and “stakeholders” to gain direct access to Twitter’s systems and flag content for censorship.

According to documents, government operatives were able to flag posts or users’ accounts that allegedly contained COVID-19 “misinformation.”

However, the portal didn’t appear to require submissions to include any supporting evidence to dispute the so-called “misinformation” and posts were removed simply for conflicting with the official narrative.
249   Patrick   2023 Jan 2, 7:42pm  


Do you read anything in the above that suggests that political correctness or correcting wrong-speak is part of the CDC mission? When did the CDC decide that they should take on the progressive left’s cause to reshape American language (oh, I used that “forbidden” word -”America”, which according to Stanford University- that is now verbotten).
250   Rin   2023 Jan 2, 8:58pm  

Patrick says

The difference is that Meth works as expected. No one can say the same for Covid vaxxes.
252   Patrick   2023 Jan 11, 12:03pm  


Did the CDC Doctor Their 2021 Study That (Still) Showed Vaccinated People Were as Infectious as Unvaccinated People?
CDC: 'Centers for Data Concealment'
254   Patrick   2023 Jan 19, 8:13pm  


CDC passes the point where malfeasance can be mistaken for incompetence ...

256   Patrick   2023 Feb 16, 5:56pm  


CDC published data in January 2022 from California and New York affirming that infection-acquired immunity was way more superior than vaccine-induced immunity: why was it covered up still today?

Why has the CDC pretended this data, their own data, does not and did not exist? These results demonstrate that surviving a previous infection protects against a reinfection & related hospitalization

Why did the CDC deny and shove aside their own study showing infection-acquired immunity is optimal and superior to vaccine induced immunity (https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7104e1.htm) while promoting this failed and sub-optimal study methodologically flawed study (https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7044e1.htm) as so aptly described by Dr. Martin Kulldorff (https://brownstone.org/articles/a-review-and-autopsy-of-two-covid-immunity-studies/)?

Easy question to answer! Because the CDC is nothing but a whore organization which works solely for the profits of the pharma industry.
257   Patrick   2023 Mar 1, 5:24pm  


Clinical Trials in the UK are Down by 44% Primarily Due to Lack of Participants
The public trust in pharma is vanishing. This is good news.

Yes, this is good news. People finally realize that the CDC/pharma crime syndicate does not have your best interests at heart, nor indeed anywhere in their calculations at all.
259   Patrick   2023 Mar 17, 2:38pm  


Pfizer, CDC Withheld Evidence of Myocarditis After COVID Shots, New Documents Reveal

Pfizer and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) withheld evidence that COVID-19 vaccinations were causing myocarditis, according documents obtained by Children’s Health Defense via a Freedom of Information Act request to the CDC, and documents leaked this week to Project Veritas.

Pfizer is the CDC now. They do whatever Pfizer tells them to do, and Pfizer tells them to do whatever makes the most money for Pfizer, no matter how many people die.
265   Patrick   2023 May 30, 7:49pm  


You just can’t beat the fact that the conference bragged about its 100% vaccinated rate. Of course, given the bad optics, the CDC strained to find some good news, which it smugly said was that none of the 180 infected attendees had to go to the hospital, proving the jabs work or something.

The truth is, they probably knew better than anybody not to go to the hospital, if they even got a serious case, that is.

Now contrast the CDC’s self-righteous jab efficacy claims with last month’s Cleveland Clinic study of 51,000 hospital employees, which concluded: “effectiveness was not demonstrated when the XBB lineages were dominant.”1

And compare the CDC’s lies with a story published earlier this month in the Epoch Times about a new Danish jab study, headlined, “Messenger RNA COVID-19 Vaccines Had No Effect on Overall Mortality: Trial Data Reanalysis.” The study concluded the Pfizer and Moderna shots did NOT show any benefit for overall mortality. No effect. So.

Of course, at this point the covid hospitalization rate is so low you wouldn’t expect any of the CDC’s attendees to have been hospitalized in the first place, proving the CDC can’t do basic math, which explains a lot when you think about it. They’re scientists, not mathematicians, after all. Nor did the CDC calculate waning jab efficacy. What was the last booster date for the conference go-ers?

Remember, this is the same government health agency that recommended OUTDOOR MASKING, until it was shamed into dropping that guidance, due to being ridiculed by none less than The Washington Post and the New York Times.

Anyway. After reading the conference story, I was left with an abiding sense that the greatest danger from covid these days comes from the CDC ITSELF — obviously a massive superspreading bureaucracy — and so we have no choice but to disband the agency, to save grandma, but reluctantly, appreciating all the good it’s done over the years, like helping create that Cholera epidemic in Haiti, and not because we WANT to pull the plug, but only because we MUST.

Now that I think about it, we should probably also tear down the CDC’s Atlanta headquarters, right to the ground, and make it into a memorial park for the victims of communitarianism. That seems appropriate.
266   zzyzzx   2023 Jun 2, 7:45am  

New CDC director, (((Mandy Cohen))):

I can't wait to be called antisemitic - yet again - for criticising the CDC director.

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