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106184   SunnyvaleCA   2019 Oct 25, 2:59pm  

With anti-Trump leaks come from those hearing every day, I wouldn't exactly call it "closed door."

And another thing to consider... if the testimony were mostly bad for Trump (not just the select leaks), don't you think the House would be holding hearings out in the open? Yeah, it's "secret" so only the out-of-context and bad parts can be selectively leaked.
106185   Rin   2019 Oct 25, 3:04pm  

Tech workers, unlike the AMA (Doctor's guild), are free market losers.

In other words, they're worker bees who don't comprehend that they don't own the capital and thus, aren't a part of the free market which is about capital and not the work one does. And thus, they're dumber than the secretary who knows her place in the organization.

There was a saying ,,, "I can just hire a PhD", by a company CEO.
106186   Shaman   2019 Oct 25, 3:04pm  

You might not like “traditional” unions, but they do offer significant job security against pernicious management, insourcing, being fired for expressing an opinion (James Damore anyone?), or otherwise being hosed by your employer.
In the example blackface posted, just the fact that the employees WANTED a Union was enough to activate labor laws on the books which protected them from company retribution to a certain degree, including backpay.
106187   kt1652   2019 Oct 25, 3:19pm  

You tesla shorts are toast. 2020 will be huge for tsla. Shanghai Gf3 will be producing model 3 at less than half of cost today sowing into biggest EV Market in the world.
Model y the long-awaited SUV will be kicking ass in the USA. The cost efficiency from model 3 learning will will hit you bears so hard you wouldn't even see stars. We're talkin about automation, eliminating wiring to a fraction of existing manual assembled copper wires.
The pickup truck is going to kick ass.
1 million mile battery will roll into production, the Maxwell Acquisitions going to reduce costs and extend range and weight at the same time.
Tesla is so far ahead it is almost a joke.
Look at the Porsche Taycan it can't even beat a seven year old model S.
106188   HeadSet   2019 Oct 25, 3:22pm  

With Boehner and McCain out of the way in the Senate

Plus those 40 odd RINOs gone who chose not to run in 2016.
106189   RWSGFY   2019 Oct 25, 3:35pm  

Porsche has flopped spectacularly, true.
106190   RWSGFY   2019 Oct 25, 3:43pm  

OccasionalCortex says
And $775k for FIFTEEN people is a dirt cheap settlement for Lanetix at that!


"Could be zero"

PS. Their whole financing is less than $10M. I'd say 7% of everything is not trivial.
106191   kt1652   2019 Oct 25, 3:44pm  

Less range, slower, at 2x the $. What's not to like about a Taycan Turbo? Someone please tell Porsches EVs don't have turbos.
Oh by the way where is the supercharger Network for your $200,000 slow EV?
106192   clambo   2019 Oct 25, 3:49pm  

The guys who bought TSLA at $383/share all have their fingers crossed.

The possibility of ever receiving a dividend from TSLA is zero.

If Tesla weren't run by an egomaniac conman liar I would give them a chance of being worth something.

Even so, with an awesome CEO the assumption that everyone else is going to sit still and not make battery cars is a fantasy.

I see Chevy Bolts all over the place; the 3 owners whom I asked all said "I love this car!"

Maybe everyone who owns an electric car loves it. That doesn't mean you should expect that company to take over car production worldwide.
106193   clambo   2019 Oct 25, 3:52pm  

First they brought in farmworkers who were illegals. Those had children who are academic underachievers.

Then they brought in foreigners legally to replace American workers in tech and other occupations (e.g. medicine)

The underachievers will cause the global tech companies to complain more "there are no qualified workers! we need to import them!"

The situation sucks, it's a shame companies feel zero remorse throwing Americans out of work to be replaced by scabs from India.
106194   kt1652   2019 Oct 25, 3:54pm  

Clambo his mouth and removed all doubt, he knows nothing about EV
106195   EBGuy   2019 Oct 25, 3:57pm  

Where's muh rebate next year?
106196   kt1652   2019 Oct 25, 3:59pm  

Who gives a s*** about rebate it's already cheaper total cost of ownership how many freaking oil changes and transmission rebuilt and gas go into a five bucks a gallon is it going to take?
Oh I know the answer why don't we invade Iran and get the oil
106197   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Oct 25, 4:14pm  

OccasionalCortex says
Already well underway. Stay tuned for the coming indictments.


Thanks Rod and Jeff. Mueller and his henchman Weismann pulled the same questionable, exculpatory evidence concealing shit they did in their previous cases at Enron, Merill-Lynch, and the Bulgers. Problem is, Barr, Horowitz, etc. know how and when they accessed that information as well as the phone calls and texts.

Brady violations are no joke. Judges really, really don't like Brady violations.

Lisa Page lied to both McCabe as well as the Trump Admin, she's looking at the Martha Stewart charge several times. Will be worse because she's a LEO employee. Unless, she sings like a canary. All of these jokers forgot exactly who has all the comms ever made, inc. within LEO circles.

It's going to be timed precisely for early next year, preferably after Golden Mumu launches her campaign.
106198   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Oct 25, 4:25pm  

When US IT guys had the muscle in the 80s and most of the 90s, little global competition, and a bidding war for their salary, they should have formed an AMA/Bar type association.

Now the march back will be difficult, but necessary.

It was bad for freedom and national security: A pro assoc. established by libertarians might have contained "Won't regulate user free speech on any task we are involved in" and limited members to US Citizens. Paki and Chinese nationals employed by Big Tech are making bank selling National and esp. Corporate Secrets abroad.
106199   EBGuy   2019 Oct 25, 4:27pm  

"Smell that? You smell that? Short squeeze, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that. I love the smell of a short squeeze in the morning. You know, one time we had short interest that was 23% of the float. When it was all over, I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' short. The smell, you know that ozone smell, the whole hill. Smelled like… "
Tesla’s stock rally is costing short sellers $1.4 billion
106200   EBGuy   2019 Oct 25, 4:27pm  

"Smell that? You smell that? Short squeeze, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that. I love the smell of a short squeeze in the morning. You know, one time we had short interest that was 23% of the float. When it was all over, I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' short. The smell, you know that ozone smell, the whole hill. Smelled like… "
Tesla’s stock rally is costing short sellers $1.4 billion
106201   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2019 Oct 25, 5:31pm  

SunnyvaleCA says
With anti-Trump leaks come from those hearing every day, I wouldn't exactly call it "closed door."

And another thing to consider... if the testimony were mostly bad for Trump (not just the select leaks), don't you think the House would be holding hearings out in the open? Yeah, it's "secret" so only the out-of-context and bad parts can be selectively leaked.


This and only this. I can’t believe how easily people swallow the msm propaganda. What is this, hysteria no. 50?
106202   richwicks   2019 Oct 25, 5:39pm  

jazz_music says
If your government has no principles, no honor, neither do you. Why do people allow this?
Same reason as there are mass shootings.


That's your government doing that. Ever fire a gun? Fire 700 rounds from the weapon of your choice, not a handgun, in 15 minutes.

That's what supposedly happened at the Mandalay Bay done by this guy:



Remember that? Remember Jesus Campos - the security guard? Where is he now?

They think you're stupid, but I know you're not stupid at all - you're just gullible.

Your government murdered a ton of people on October 1, 2017 for two reasons - 1) to try to start violence they could associate with Trump 2) to damage the 2nd amendment. Your government did that. I know you don't believe it - but go to a range and fire off 700 bullets. Anybody that has actually gone to a range knows the story is bullshit. We all know.

Go to a range get all the weapons of your choice, and just fire off 700 bullets, in 15 minutes. See if you can do it and when you're exhausted after 100, maybe 200 rounds, you'll realize who the enemy is. It's not me, they are in DC.

We constantly try to educate you and you propagandized zombies just can't be reached. I'm absolutely serious - go to a gun range. 15 minutes 700 rounds. I know you don't want to see the real world, but I want you to see it. Easy test, costs you a bit of money, but when you're done, you'll be certain.
106203   marcus   2019 Oct 25, 5:46pm  

106204   richwicks   2019 Oct 25, 5:54pm  

rdm says
Trump is no moron but he cultivates that perception intentionally


That sir, is ridiculous. The old 17 dimensional chess argument done one better.


Oh for fuck's sake - Trump is NOT playing 17 dimensional chess, or even 4 dimensional chess, or even chess.

He's playing checkers - the problem is that the MORONS on the other side are playing tic-tac-toe.

Stop thinking the fuckers that have been running the nation for the last 16 years are smart - they're not smart. I'm smarter than they are, you are too. All they are, is ruthless, criminal, and sociopathic. All it takes to defeat the fuckers is not to be an idiot, and to ignore their kindergarten tactics, and of course - to stay alive.

"He's a Russian agent". Really? That's how goddamn stupid they think I am. You're not this stupid, you just have grossly misplaced trust. 2 1/2 years of "Russian collusion", you'd think when Mueller, the fucker that helped lie this nation into the Iraq War, showed up and testified like a befuddled, stupid, crazy old man it would be over, but nope, people are EXTREMELY gullible.

You are NOT stupid, you're just gullible.
106205   Shaman   2019 Oct 25, 5:59pm  

Fuck, I have a semi-automatic shotgun and after 100 shells at clays I am done.
106206   richwicks   2019 Oct 25, 6:08pm  

Quigley says
Fuck, I have a semi-automatic shotgun and after 100 shells at clays I am done.


I swear to god they make up these ridiculous stories to drive sane people insane and they keep upping the ante and doubling down, over and over and over again.

Think about law enforcement, either they don't know the story, or they literally can't put 2 and 2 together. They are on range all the time, how could they NOT know? What about anybody that's been in the military??? Shit, if I was a MARINE, I might be able to fire off 700 rounds in 15 minutes, maybe.
106207   Onvacation   2019 Oct 25, 6:30pm  

jazz_music says
crimes. --I forgot what they are exactly.

Yeah we know.

CRIMES! TRUMP COMMITTED CRIMES! i don't know what they are but CRIMES! ORANGE MAN BAD! INVESTIGATE! IMPEACH! CRIMES!
106208   SunnyvaleCA   2019 Oct 25, 9:45pm  

richwicks says
He's playing checkers - the problem is that the MORONS on the other side are playing tic-tac-toe.

I think that's exactly right.

But also, the "other side" (which is pretty much everyone except Trump) might know what is good for US citizens, but they are corrupt enough that they don't care. They are in politics to sell out the citizens for personal gain. At least Trump is trying to look out for the best interests of US citizens, even if he is sometimes wrong and oftentimes ineffective (thanks to the corruption of the "other side").
106209   Ceffer   2019 Oct 25, 10:34pm  

Their motto is: "I bet we can fool you with fake news at least once!"
106210   rdm   2019 Oct 25, 10:44pm  

SunnyvaleCA says
For Hunter its: Failure to register as a foreign lobbyist, money laundering, and tax evasion; just like Paul Manafort. For Quid Pro Joe: the nickname speaks for itself


Then fucking prosecute him/them. You got evidence of a crime take it before a grand jury and get an indictment. For fucks sake the Justice dept is a wholly owned subsidiary of Trump. Barr is Trumps fuck buddy This is all blather and conspiracy theory wet dreams cranked up by the anal chamber the right has its heads immersed in. When it comes to looking at real evidence it doesn't hold up. But there are facts and alternative facts, in other words lies.

BTW How's that indictment of Andy McCabe going? They lost the the case against Greg Craig while Manafort, and Trump's ex right hand moron and world's worst attorney Michael Cohen are in prison and Gates and Flynn await sentencing. Lev and Igor indicted, Rudy under investigation and yet we have iron clad cases against the Bidens and can't get indictments. Why is it only Trumps cronies get convicted while the murderous Clintons and other assorted Dem criminals get away with...murder? I'm sure our resident Russian trolls will blame the rot in the system. Or it could be they are innocent...nah that cant possibly be true
106211   Ceffer   2019 Oct 25, 10:50pm  

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
Her first edict will be to declare all pets gay and to give all of Mexico Medicare for free.


Haven't they already done that?
106212   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Oct 25, 10:50pm  

The Impeachment Hearing - never authorized by a vote in Congress - contains members from committees that really have no direct business with an impeachment (Intelligence, Oversight, Armed Forces) - but excludes the Judiciary Committee (where traditionally all impeachments begin, from Johnson to Clinton).
106213   Ceffer   2019 Oct 25, 10:54pm  

Has anybody actually read these rules, or has Pelosi stated: "We'll have to impeach before we can see what was in the rules."?
106214   theoakman   2019 Oct 26, 6:16am  

Onvacation says
What offence did Trump commit? I can't think of anything that rises to high crime or misdemeanor.

Now the way Joe and Hunter shook down Ukraine, that's criminal.

richwicks is right we are ruled by a murderous criminal organization.
''

Supposedly, he threatened to withold free money for Ukraine
106215   Shaman   2019 Oct 26, 6:24am  

theoakman says
Supposedly, he threatened to withold free money for Ukraine


/shudder
That monster!
106216   Shaman   2019 Oct 26, 6:27am  

WaltertheoFlanders says
Elections have consequences. What is your point? Are the doing something wrong, or just different? And if wrong what rule or law are they breaking? Or are you saying this isn't fair. 😂


Writing their own rules such that rule of law is subverted is a perversion of the Constitution. It’s not rule of law, it’s rule of tyrant. Even Democrats in the House aren’t happy with how these proceedings have progressed without the consent of the general Congress. Clearly, this inquiry process is just intended to smear Trump and hurt his re-election campaign.
106217   Onvacation   2019 Oct 26, 8:07am  

WaltertheoFlanders says
Wrong again, it is intended to draw up articles of impeachment.

For some yet to be discovered crime.
106218   Expat01   2019 Oct 26, 8:25am  

LOL. Republicans are butt-hurt because the system is being used against them. The Orange One is a everything the left claims he is which the right agreed when Trump was not a viable candidate or president. Liar, cheat, serial failure, rapist, unfaithful heathen and a blithering ignoramus.

When it was Bill Clinton getting a blow job in the Oval Office, this was suddenly the end of Democracy and he had to be punished. The proceedings were secret and cost $70 million dollars. Any Democrat complaints were brushed aside as mere political grandstanding and bias. Well, now we have a president who is being charged with selling out American foreign policy to promote and favor his re-election. He has asked a foreign power explicitly to interfere in the elections. Sounds a bit worse than a blowjob to me, but I am not a Republican so my moral compass is normal.

I invite any intelligent Trump supporter here (yes, both of you) to play a mind game if you can. Imagine everything Trump and his family have done (his life, not just the presidency) was done by a Democrat (call him Joe Clinton if it makes you hard) and figure out if you would vote for him, let him babysit your kids or impeach him. I know this is futile; Trump supporters are apparently incapable of playing this game. But give it a try.
106219   rdm   2019 Oct 26, 8:26am  

richwicks says

You are NOT stupid, you're just gullible.


Yep I would say its a question of suggestibility isn't that right? It is unfortunately the human condition not restricted to left or right and used by totalitarian regimes. Put the idea out there and then move people slowly in a direction until they are completely taken in. Like Trump being the genius, is just playing at being a moron that explains it all to get over on the libs. Or sure Trump is playing checkers but the libs are even dumber. in other words the whole thing is a rotten mess, Or the poster who in a previous thread said we should dump Old Europe and become allied with Russia, is that the game plan?
106220   SunnyvaleCA   2019 Oct 26, 7:58pm  

WaltertheoFlanders says
Yeah, yeah that's the ticket.

Please tell ... what did Obama do for me? What are the Democrat contenders going to do for me?
106221   Onvacation   2019 Oct 26, 8:04pm  

jazz_music says
Most of America runs around parroting sitcom one liners wanting to get a laugh.

And they have iPhones and are obese.
106222   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2019 Oct 26, 8:24pm  

jazz_music says
SunnyvaleCA says
Please tell ... what did Obama do for me?
Why not ask that question to your favorite search engine and then pick the list from your preferred source? —because you don’t want to know the answer.

Here’s an example

http://addictinginfo.com/2013/02/15/a-long-list-of-president-obamas-accomplishments-with-citations/


Why are you citing propaganda? And lol@ preventing a depression. It WAS a Depression. Merely calling it a recession doesn’t make it so.

And oh, President Obama just happened to preside over the very worst recovery ever.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/louiswoodhill/2012/08/01/obama-wins-the-gold-for-worst-economic-recovery-ever/amp/
106223   ignoreme   2019 Oct 26, 8:39pm  

Let’s ask a different question. What was one substantial policy where Obama differed from GWB?

Obama care? You mean Romney care?

Trump is night and day difference from Obama, Clinton, or any Bush. If anyone of these presidents were in power today we’d be at war with Turkey in Syria while flooding the country with H1Bs and sending all our money to China after signing TPP.

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