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edvard says

You guys seem to enjoy behaving like most right wing nutters I've run into who are either genuinely dumb or play dumb when it comes to super obvious shit, like things Trump has literally and unquestionably done.

I want quotes and documented actions. None of your spin or interpretation. Lay out some actual quotes with linked references, and let's analyze.

"I want quotes. None of your spin or interpretation. Lay out some actual quotes with linked references, and let's analyze."

Don't be so lazy. Have you heard of Google? I'm not going to be your baby sitter: Go look that shit up yourself. Its easy and everything I said comes up right away and was heavily reported when it occurred- on FOX news too...

edvard says

"There will be no blue wave."

So you picked a single url? How about a url that shows ALL of the polls together?

Highlight the text and then click quote. Your comments are difficult to read if you haven't read all the prior comments.

edvard says

And now that you seem clearly unable to devote time to an intelligent post you'll do like most wingnut trolls:

Intelligent post? Don't intelligent post require intelligent points? Or even "a point"? I honestly didn't see one.

edvard says

Uh yes, illegals or not, making nasty racist comments about humans in general is... Racist. Or are you too dense to get that?

First off, calm it down with the personal attacks. Last warning or you're going to start getting nuked. You're not going to like it, and honestly, I don't like doing it. Just follow the rules.

Secondly, what nasty racist comments? Saying some illegals who come over the border are "bad people" is not a nasty comment, it's simply a fact of life. When you don't check who is coming over, inevitably, you will get bad apples streaming across unmitigated.

PrivilegedtobeWhite says

literally and unquestionably

Lol so literally and unquestionably that you can't be bothered to address anything specific, apparently.



edvard says

"I want quotes. None of your spin or interpretation. Lay out some actual quotes with linked references, and let's analyze."

Don't be so lazy. Have you heard of Google? I'm not going to be your baby sitter: Go look that shit up yourself. Its easy and everything I said comes up right away and was heavily reported when it occurred- on FOX news too...

Haha, ofc.

Ed: "Trump is racist. CNN told me so."
Also Ed: "I have no sources."

Ladies and gentlemen, this is TDS in action.

edvard says

"I want quotes. None of your spin or interpretation. Lay out some actual quotes with linked references, and let's analyze."

Don't be so lazy. Have you heard of Google? I'm not going to be your baby sitter: Go look that shit up yourself. Its easy and everything I said comes up right away and was heavily reported when it occurred- on FOX news too...

I can't find anything that proves that he is running a racist platform. Back up your shit.

Holidays to Today:

Trump Approval


Trump Disapproval was +21 pts on 12/15/17.
Trump Disapproval stands at +8pts as of 8/13/18.

His margin of disapproval has been cut in half, despite a full court press of Negative Media (which nobody in their right mind can deny) - Unheard for a President who is demonstrating success in hard numbers from GDP to Unemployment to Increasing Exports.

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Dems lead by 13 points around Christmas 2017
Dems lead has been chopped to a third of that, now 4 points as of Mid August 2018.

TwoScoopsOfWompWomp says

Trump Disapproval was +21 pts on 12/15/17.
Trump Disapproval stands at +8pts as of 8/13/18.

TwoScoopsOfWompWomp says

Dems lead by 13 points around Christmas 2017
Dems lead has been chopped to a third of that, now 4 points as of Mid August 2018.

Come on, you're just quoting fake Fox News crap....

Oh, wait.... it's RCP, which is consider to be one of the most accurate...

Damn.... Time for some NEW FAKE Russia scandal dreamed up by the Liberal MSM. I wonder how Rachel Maddow feels about those numbers?

The "Blue Wave" has turned into a trickling creek.

TwoScoopsOfWompWomp says

despite a full court press of Negative Media (which nobody in their right mind can deny) - Unheard for a President who is demonstrating success in hard numbers from GDP to Unemployment to Increasing Exports.

People dont like being deceived. As they realize, one by one that the MSM is lying about Trump, his ratings will improve. This also gives him a bullet-proof coating against the MSM attacks, since every Trump supporter has realized the MSM is lying constantly.

His approval will rise as the FBI/CIA/Hillary collusion against him during 2016 election continues to come to light. They never thought they would lose, and have been fighting against the inevitable ever since.

Goran_K says

Who is suffering right now besides snowflake lefty assholes who don't understand how an election works?

This is key ...

http://patrick.net/post/1315913/2018-05-11-be-honest-if-there-s-no-sudden-economic-collapse-then-trump-gets-re-elected

In it ...

"BTW, I have a thread on election bitches because these east/west coast Femi-Nazis ...

http://patrick.net/post/1301811/2017-01-23-election-bitches-read-my-lips-the-vote-of-women-in-boston-and-nyc-don-t-matter

went ape shit because they couldn't figure out that it takes more than winning over places like Boston and NYC to put a candidate into the White House."

Seriously, why were 1000s of women, running around the cities of Boston and NYC, protesting the election in mass?

They had already won Massachusetts and New York State!

All they did was create a major traffic jam for YES! ... Hillary Clinton voters!

MrMagic says

The "Blue Wave" has turned into a trickling creek.

8/14/18 Update: Rasmussen, which does Likely Voters rather than less reliable Registered Voters and certainly the laughable "All Adults", has Trump +1 Approval.

AND, Trumps total approval is now a mere -5%.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/trump_approval_index_history

Aphroman says

It’s a shame that Republicans make the laws here in the States. If they respected our Constitution and Americans way of life

It's not a shame, it's democracy, something leftists hate when they don't win elections.

Also, protecting the 2nd Amendment is respecting the Constitution.

TwoScoopsOfWompWomp says

8/14/18 Update: Rasmussen, which does Likely Voters rather than less reliable Registered Voters and certainly the laughable "All Adults", has Trump +1 Approval.

This poll was the most accurate for predicting election 2016. RCP averages in a lot of super questionable polls with extremely divergent results to get their number. GIGO!

Aphroman says

There’s nothing democratic about allowing certain gambling in some places yet not in others. Smells more like crony Capitalism to me

Uh, it's called a Federal System. Some States decide they'll allow gambling, others do not.



Aphroman says

Republicans holding legislation hostage that protects our country, unless they get to force their Prohibition rider onto it, is anti-democratic.

And those representatives were democratically elected.

Aphroman says

United States is a Constitutional Republic.

Yep, that selects representatives via Election.

Sorry you lost. Here's a suggestion, stop demonizing White Males.

Ah, Sod Off.

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www.youtube.com/embed/xDFqRFODiMg

Goran_K says

There will be no "Blue Wave", change my mind!

I'd rather just let the blue wave change your mind, that is, if it happens.

The most likely way it could manifest would be with higher turn out among democrats, based on disgust with Trump.

Andrew Cuomo: America "...was never that great."

Go Democrats! 2018 Motto: "Does it piss off Peoria?"

Andrew Cuomo: ‘We’re not going to ‘Make America Great Again. It was never that great’ pic.twitter.com/VpPLbsAT9B

— BNL NEWS (@BreakingNLive) August 15, 2018

TwoScoopsOfWompWomp says

Cthulhu R'lyeh!

I never took you for an H.P. Lovecraft fan.

Nope! Joe will miss Democrat Day!

https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/08/15/joe-biden-doctor-skip-illinois-democrat-day/

Rin says

I never took you for an H.P. Lovecraft fan.

As a New Englander, I figured you would be one.

1996 Miskatonic University, BS Non-euclidean Geometry

TwoScoopsOfWompWomp says

1996 Miskatonic University, BS Non-euclidean Geometry

Yes, both Miskatonic and Harvard had rare books on necromancy!

Cook's final electoral map.

https://www.270towin.com/maps/the-cook-political-report

Click the map to create your own at 270toWin.com

TwoScoopsOfWompWomp says

Cook's final electoral map.

I have one even better from Nate Silver, the Guru of Liberal polling and accurate predictions. This was as of the morning of the election:

Hillary: 302
Trump:235

Now for something you will REALLY like!

Florida Democratic Voter Registrations Down Since 2016
https://legalinsurrection.com/2018/08/florida-democratic-voter-registrations-down-since-2016/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+LegalInsurrection+%28Le

We're going to fuck 'em in the ass good alright!

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/402329-worst-case-scenario-for-house-gop-is-70-seat-wipeout




That's the downside of all the gerrymandering for Republicans. In a very Dem friendly year that breaks the gerrymanders, the results become catastrophic.

LeonDurham says

the results become catastrophic.

Why did you leave out this graphic:


The Repubs still hold the House, which is the MOST likely.

What does your boy, Nate Silver say, we'll just take his prediction and invert it, just like last election?

marcus says

The most likely way it could manifest would be with higher turn out among democrats,

Particularly women. This being essentially an all male site we don't get the view of 51% of the population but the gender gap is substantial, growing and they are motivated to vote. Grab your nut sacks and hide the knives.

rdm says

Particularly women.

In 2016, exit surveys showed that among married women who voted, 47% voted for Donald Trump, compared to 49% for Hillary Clinton. Married men voted for President Trump 57% vs 38%. Midterm turnout is generally lower than presidential election years, probably especially among unmarried voters. So, those demographics might favor R.

Democrats chose to sacrifice liberalism and to embrace instead Islam, one of the most illiberal doctrines on earth. That puts the Democrats always one Islamic attack away from losing. As a lifelong real estate guy, Donald Trump recognizes the value of placement. When attention turns to defending against Islamic attacks, he owns the whole block. 2016 saw notable attacks inside the USA, and Democrats lost across most of the republic. Since then, we have continued to see Islamic attacks in other countries, and President Trump calls attention to them every time they happen in a familiar western city such as London. (They happen ALL THE TIME in countries that have more Muslims, e.g. the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, which is itself a terrorist state as per Islam.) Moreover, Democrats' embrace of Islam shows terrible hypocrisy and is easily portrayed as anti-Christian, because Democrats insist on importing Muslims who share many of the same beliefs that Democrats criticize among Christians. As long as the Democrats embrace Islam, which contradicts almost everything most Democrats claim to believe in, they appear hypocritical and anti-Christian, and place their election prospects at the imaginary mercy of Islamic terrorists.

Meanwhile, Republicans have also outflanked Democrats by enacting more liberal policies in the medical sector: right to try, and repealing the Obamacare mandate. Most Democrats opposed right to try, and voted to enact and to keep the Obamacare mandate. It is thus difficult to present Democrats as a liberal party, or even having any coherent agenda other than opposing President Trump, who carried most states and districts in 2016.

In order to produce a blue wave, Democrats need a coherent agenda, e.g. putting Americans first. That would mean agreeing with President Trump about several things, e.g. Islam and immigration. MSM and "liberal" attempts to demonize President Trump preclude that, with the result that Democrats continue losing.

Every election is gonna be local. No election is gonna look like Conor Lamb (a complete an utter 2A Non-NARAL Pro-Tariff populist bluedog as you can get, running in an open seat where the previous office holder Republican resigned in disgrace) , or Texas, or anything else.

In reality, the chances are 50-50 the Dems take the House. I don't see a path to the Senate unless something crazy happens, such as a vulnerable Senator has a scandal.

We have an absolutely booming economy by every metric. You can add Youth Unemployment at 50-year lows and a retail explosion to that as well, now.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/youth-unemployment-hits-52-year-low-1534455755

The best Campaign Ad for 2018:

Interesting article from 2010.

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2010/11/the-most-important-economic-indicator-in-midterm-elections/65505/

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says

We have an absolutely booming economy by every metric.

Not by every metric. Like real wages, for example. That is a pretty important economic indicator, wouldn't you say??

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/05/opinion/columnists/trump-real-wages-inflation-workers-economy.html



https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2018/08/11/trumps-economic-scorecard-higher-inflation-flat-wages-and-a-ballooning-federal-deficit/#888f4322facd

"In the past few days, new economic reports have come out that don’t paint a very rosy picture for a number of economic items. While GDP hit 4.1% for the June quarter, but only 2.9% year over year, and the unemployment rate is hovering at all-time lows, inflation continues to increase, real wages are stagnant and the federal budget deficit is ballooning .
The following reports on inflation and wages could be a couple of the reasons that many American workers are not feeling better about their financial situation. And add to those concerns about Trump’s tariffs, especially as it applies to products such as soybeans. To get an overview of economic data while Trump has been President check out “Trump’s Economic Scorecard: 18 Months Into His Presidency.”

LeonDurham says

Not by every metric. Like real wages, for example. That is a pretty important economic indicator, wouldn't you say??

Nope...

People are spending like crazy, apparent your wage claim means nothing...

Walmart's best sales in a decade show US consumer may be strongest in years because of the tax cut, jobs growth.

Walmart's best growth in comp store sales in a decade comes as the U.S. consumer is showing some of the best signs of strength since the recession.
Retail sales jumped in July, but so did the sales performance at retailers as consumers not only went shopping but spent money on travel and dining out.
Economists say consumer spending is being helped by the tax bill and also the fact that U.S. job creation remains strong, even as unemployment dipped below 4 percent.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/16/walmarts-best-sales-in-a-decade-show-us-consumer-is-alive-and-well-because-of-the-tax-cut-jobs-growth.html

Next....

curious2 says

In order to produce a blue wave, Democrats need a coherent agenda

First of all, the unofficial leader of the party, Hillary Clinton, needs to shut her mouth. Since her defeat, she's been on the road, barking & screaming at the world, passively indicating that the election was some-how misappropriated from her. In contrast, Al Gore went silent, after the 2000 Florida debacle, where the election was in the fact, STOLEN, in the most horrific way possible ... one which was sanctioned by the Supreme Court. So by the following 2004 election season, the Democrats had new leadership and could move on. Today, in place of Gore's graceful exit, we have the Cult of Hillary Clinton which is unabating.

LeonDurham says

Not by every metric. Like real wages

IMHO, we're undergoing a structural change in the economy which is independent of political parties. I believe we're in the early stages of mass automation where employees do not have any leverage on wage increases. A lot of companies can use contract labor to fill stop-gaps in their delivery cycles and thus, not have to maintain permanent headcount, while at the same time CIOs look towards expert systems to maximize the workload of the existing crop of ppl on the permanent payroll. Face it, moving forward, a lot of ppl will need more than 1 job to earn what they used to earn, in the pre-AI era.

Men who are collectivists are cuckolds.

MrMagic says

eople are spending like crazy, apparent your wage claim means nothing...

Walmart's best sales in a decade show US consumer may be strongest in years because of the tax cut, jobs growth.

lol--we're measuring health of the economy by spending at Walmart?? bwahahahahahaha.

Is it possible people are spending more at the cheapest, crappiest, lowest quality crap because they can't afford anything else?? Higher spending at Walmart probably indicates a crappier economy.

Rin says

IMHO, we're undergoing a structural change in the economy which is independent of political parties. I believe we're in the early stages of mass automation where employees do not have any leverage on wage increases.

I agree. Trump and his cult can blame immigration all they want, but they are missing the bigger picture.